Players and Matches From Yesteryear

Discussion in 'Argentina: Selecciones Nacionales' started by aerez, Sep 22, 2023.

  1. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I've been watching some old matches with Ayala at the World Cup. He use to be my favorite defender next to Zenetti, but now that I'm looking at him with another perspective. He cost us quite a few games. Bad challenges, always getting turned inside out, or a bad misread tackle that opened up space. Zanetti definately was better than him.
     
  2. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #2 Rattlehead, Sep 22, 2023
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2023
    Yea, that Bergkamp's goal and his own goal against Brazil were bad memories and always sticks out like a sore thumb. I think he also had another own goal against Brazil in qualifier 2002.. or was it friendlies?

    However, if Pekerman didnt make a bad subtitution in 2006 QF, we probably would have won that game with his header, right? He also helped us to win Olympics 2004 without conceiding goal the whole tournament.

    I was watching 2002 WC highlights again the other day after more than a decade, and Aimar was another disappointment. He played in last two games and didnt play that well. He had two open chances against England from distance , both time he shoot to the sky.
     
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  3. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Since certain posters like to talk about players and matches of the past, I think it is best to create a thread and not dilute it with the current players or sticky tournament/matches threads.

    Pupi had shaky moments as well. All of our defenders had moments.


    Bielsa was in charge for 2004.
     
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  4. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I mean Ayala was part of Olympics 2004 team.
     
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  5. dna77054

    dna77054 Member+

    Jun 28, 2003
    houston
    Though this may belong in the coached thread, but has any coach effed up more than Passarella with his stupid "no long hair" policy. Imagine Redondo and Caniggia added to that 1998 team.
     
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  6. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Bati himself had stated that 94 team was the team that would've likely won the World Cup with Diego and the team lost its soul when he was banned. He said the 98 team was missing something. Maybe that something was in fact Redondo and Caniggia. Lets not forget prior to the 98 World Cup, we had beaten Brasil on their home soil, so that semi-final matchup would've been interesting. But Pasarella's policy was stupid as hell. He must've forgotten who helped him hoist the trophy in 78.

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  7. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    When you get that impulsive urge to post random goals and matches from the past, place it here! It’s a new and shiny thread. I got you, Big Chief.
     
  8. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Stumbled on this highlights again from YT random recommandation...

    I have to say even just by having a decent midfields (Banega & Alessandro), we're able to thrashed Spain. Diego really threw that quarterfinal away by fielding 5 attackers without any proper midfielders. To think there's the likes of Aimar, Cambiassao, Riquelme and even Veron all could have been available ... but Diego treated that game as if its a playstation game.



    In a way we also laid a blueprint on how to beat their possession football. A quick direct counter which Netherlands and Brazil also did few years later. Most teams who tries to outpossess Spain usually ended up losing.
     
  9. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
    Spain
    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    You may look at 2002 squad then wonder why the team failed to even past group stage.
     
  10. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Or look at Spain WC run outside 2010. Wonder why its always first round or round 16 exit most of the time... France also out at group stage in that WC, while Netherlands didnt even qualify.
     
  11. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina

    Boca legend and prolific striker Francisco Varallo who at the time of his passing aged 100 in 2010 was the oldest surviving WC player and sole survivor therefore of the inaugural WC final relates his memories of it.
     
  12. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Messi wrongly disallowed goal against Brazil in Copa 2007 final. He was clearly onside when Masche shoot. He had similar goal being disallowed aswell against Mexico in WC 2006, even though replay shows there's no offside.

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  13. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  14. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  15. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  16. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Another proof FIFA and Conmebol are always against Argentina 9 out of 10 times. Slowmition replay shows its a clean tackle by Rojo.



    Just like this one. From aerial view, Sensini got the ball perfectly and Voller just dived.

     
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  17. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lol the Rojo one the referee is such a clown he flashes the red while everyone is fighting. No serious ref does that they calm down the situation first. He was so focused on ejecting someone to even things up you can tell
     
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  18. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  19. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  20. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I remember that as it happened. You know he was completely guilty when he put his arms up like he didn't do anything. That's a sign of guilt.
     
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  21. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Caniggia wrongly disallowed goal vs Brazil in WC 1990. He's clearly onside when Diego made the pass. Off course he'd have a payback later in the game.

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  22. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bruh how in the world did they get that one wrong? Not even close and they have grass lines to help.
     
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  23. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    At least they replicated that move against Nigeria in 1994 and scored.
     
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  24. ganapordiego

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    Estudiantes de La Plata
    Argentina
    Jul 10, 2021
    Yeah, whenever people speak of how much Brazil dominated this one, I know right away they forgot about this goal. Totally different game if it rightfully stands. Oh well, worked out in the end.
     
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