Player ratings vs the massives

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by Republic of Mancunia, Jan 27, 2010.

  1. Republic of Mancunia

    Aug 24, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Marks out of 10.....

    Van der Sar
    Rafael
    Ferdinand
    Evans
    Evra
    Nani
    Fletcher
    Scholes
    Carrick
    Giggs
    Rooney
    Brown
    Valencia
     
  2. Bronaldo

    Bronaldo Red Card

    Apr 8, 2007
    Canada
    Van der Sar-8
    Rafael-5
    Ferdinand-7.5
    Evans-8
    Evra-7
    Nani-7.5
    Fletcher-8.5
    Scholes-8.5
    Carrick-8.5
    Giggs-7
    Rooney-8
    Brown-N/A
    Valencia-N/A

    Forgot Evans, I think.
     
  3. Republic of Mancunia

    Aug 24, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Cheers. I manage to miss one off after every match at the moment.
     
  4. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Van der Sar - 8 key save from Tevez in first half
    Rafael - 7 kept Bellamy in his pocket most of the game
    Ferdinand - 8 solid + influential as usual
    Evans - 7 solid
    Evra - 7.5
    Nani - 8 dangerous
    Fletcher - 10 that good
    Scholes - 8 great first half
    Carrick - 8 great second half
    Giggs - 8 great second half
    Rooney - 7 good workrate and great header
    Brown - 6
    Valencia - 6

    RoM you missed Evans
     
  5. nimma

    nimma Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 5, 2006
    India
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Van der Sar - 8 - Made a couple of wonderful saves
    Rafael - 7 - Was pretty good
    Ferdinand - 8.5 - Great at the back...
    Evans - 7.5 - Solid
    Evra - 7.5 - Couple of good forward runs...Pretty solid
    Nani - 8 - Taking his chances...Great control of the ball....Was good
    Fletcher - 8 - Was at his best after a while
    Scholes - 8.5 - Wow....just wow.....Immaculate...Great at speading the ball...Can we ever have another young Scholes at the club who has as much vision as he has?....
    Carrick - 7.5 - Midfield Trio were good
    Giggs - 7.5 - Was good
    Rooney - 9 - The man's awesome....Worked tirelessly throughout the game..+0.5 for the late goal
    Brown - 7.5 - Made Bellamy look like a fool on one occasion doing a trick of his own.....ha ha...
    Valencia - N/A
     
  6. googoo

    googoo Member

    Dec 22, 2008
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Van der Sar - 7 - some good saves

    Rafael - 6
    Ferdinand - 7.5
    Evans - 8
    Evra - 6

    Nani - 7 - looks like he really wants to stay, I'm happy for him
    Fletcher - 8 - he wanted it tonight, he really did, great performance
    Scholes - 8
    Carrick - 7
    Giggs - 7.5

    Rooney - 8

    Brown - N/A
    Valencia - N/A
     
  7. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    Van der Sar-7
    Rafael-5 - weakest link
    Ferdinand-7.5
    Evans-6 - struggled against Tevez
    Evra-7
    Nani-7.5
    Fletcher-8.5
    Scholes-8.5
    Carrick-8
    Giggs-7.5
    Rooney-7.5
     
  8. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    Van der Sar 8 - Let's face it, this guy is essential.
    Rafael 6 - Going through that learning period.
    Ferdinand 8 - Vital
    Evans - 8 Impressive
    Evra 7.5 - Steady but really needs to improve his end product. Good ball to Rooney though.
    Nani 7 - The rehabilitation continues.
    Fletcher 7.5 - Was everywhere.
    Scholes 8 - We probably would've been overrun in midfield if he wasn't there.
    Carrick 7 - Picked up his play a lot in the second half, finished really well for his goal.
    Giggs 6 - So so game but fantastic ball to Rooney for the killer goal.
    Rooney 7.5 - Alone but still a big threat. Great ghosting run to score the header.
    Brown N/A
    Valencia N/A - His introduction really put City under pressure.
     
  9. sdotsom

    sdotsom Member+

    Manchester United
    Mar 27, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Marks out of 10.....

    Van der Sar - 8
    Rafael - 5
    Ferdinand -7
    Evans - 6
    Evra -7
    Nani -6.5
    Fletcher -8
    Scholes - 7
    Carrick - 8
    Giggs - 6
    Rooney - 8
    Brown - XX
    Valencia- XX
     
  10. Only_ONE_United

    Nov 30, 2008
    Vancouver/Hong Kong
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    Van der Sar: 8 -Kept us in the game from the beginning when we had a fairly slow start
    Rafael: 6 -Shaky at times, but stayed with Bellamy for the most part
    Ferdinand: 7.5 -Some great defensive plays/tackles
    Evans: 7 -Made a good save with a header over the bar
    Evra: 7 -Good runs up to join the rush, but needs to work on his crosses
    Nani: 6.5 - Some inspired play at times, but I felt in general he was too easily knocked off the ball and tended to make too many turns resulting in turnovers.
    Fletcher: 8 -Great determined play in the MF
    Scholes: 8.5-Brilliant passes, and scored the opening goal that got us back into the game
    Carrick: 7.5-Played well with Fletcher and benefited from a goal, -0.5 only because of the great chance missed with Given beat
    Giggs: 7.5 -I thought he looked a bit tired at times during his runs, but kept at it and played a good game overall
    Rooney: 8.5 -Wasn't very prominent in first half due to little possession, but once the ball got rolling, was a force. Made amends to what looked like a tap-in by nailing the last one on Citeh's silverware coffin in the last seconds.
    Brown: 6 -Didn't have to do much, but played alright.
    Valencia: n/a
     
  11. three lions

    three lions Member

    Apr 2, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Van der Sar- 7
    Rafael - 6.5
    Ferdinand - 7.5
    Evans - 6.5
    Evra - 7
    Nani - 7
    Fletcher - 7.5
    Scholes - 7.5
    Carrick - 8
    Giggs - 6.5
    Rooney - 7.5
    Brown - n/a
    Valencia - n/a
     
  12. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Van der Sar 8.5 - top class saves, calm as usual and kept Citeh deep w/ great balls to Wayne
    Rafael 4 - even next to Rio he has made some glaring errors, must improve positioning
    Ferdinand 8 - fantastic defending and better passing/distribution
    Evans 7 - dealt w/ Tevez to an extent
    Evra 7 - he was Giggsy's legs all match long. I don't know how he does it week in week out
    Nani 7 - involved in a goal, played dangerous crosses
    Fletcher 7.5 - worked hard, popped up at important times
    Scholes 8.5 - it was his midfield
    Carrick 9 - a goal, an assist and countless tackles and some hold up play???
    Giggs 7 - no running in him today but intelligent dangerous play
    Rooney 8 - should have had 2 but he worked so hard, made so many runs
    Brown 5 - wasn't a measured improvement over Rafa when he came in
    Valencia N/A
     
  13. GranCanMan

    GranCanMan Member

    Jan 12, 2007
    Manchester
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Van der Sar - 7 - decent, the goal came out of nowhere.

    Rafael - 5 - Shaky and looked uncomfortable with Bellamy. Tends to lunge into his tackles.

    Ferdinand - 7.5 - Did what was required, although he didn't bring the ball out quiten as well as I'd like him to.

    Evans - 7 - Ok in my book. Sometimes troubkled but dealt with any danger fairly well.

    Evra - 7 - Good going forward, generally untroubled defensively.

    Nani - 7.5 - Another decent game from him. Has he ever produced 2 good games on the trot?

    Fletcher - 7.5 - Tirelss worker. Closed down excellently in the first half and got forward well in the second.

    Scholes - 7.5 - Very good. Passing was fantastic, and he took his goal well. Typical booking.

    Carrick - 8 - Still not assertive enough for me, but will he ever be? His passing was good and he showed great composure when taking his goal. Fired wide minutes after.

    Giggs - 6.5 - Average, but his experience told. He used the ball well and was always a potential threat. Set up the winner.

    Rooney - 9 - Everything he did last night was gold, apart from his ludicrous miss on 78 minutes. His ball for our first was sublime and he took his goal very well.

    Brown - 5 - Didn't really have a great game when he came on, but wasn't given much time. Still seems short of full match fitness to me.

    Valencia - 5 - Again, not really too much time. His direct running causes fullbacks all sorts of problems though. He's looking like a shrewd buy, even at £17m.
     
  14. yikchi

    yikchi Member

    Aug 11, 2004
    Garden State
    Van der Sar 8
    Rafael 6 - much better than he was in the first leg.
    Ferdinand 8
    Evans 7
    Evra 7
    Nani 7 - another good game.
    Fletcher 7 - wasn't good in the first half, but suddenly show up all over the place after Richards pissed him off.
    Scholes 8 -
    Carrick 8.5 - apart from 2 bad pass, he had a somewhat quiet great game.
    Giggs 7.5
    Rooney 8 - should have had 2 but he worked so hard, made so many runs
    Brown 5
    Valencia N/A
     
  15. Stud83

    Stud83 Member+

    Jun 1, 2005
    Van der Sar 7
    Rafael 6
    Ferdinand 7
    Evans - 7
    Evra 7
    Nani 7 - whatever SAF is doing seems to be working.
    Fletcher 8 - how do we make him play like that in all matches, not just super important ones?
    Scholes 8 - Brilliant
    Carrick 8 - one of the better games
    Giggs 8 - quiet evening, but directly involved in our second and third goals
    Rooney 8 - on a roll.
     
  16. RedRidingHood

    RedRidingHood New Member

    Sep 22, 2007
    Mumbai ,India
    Van der Sar 8 Nice saves and quick throws .
    Rafael 5.5 Didnt offer any attacking threat which was probably expected as he was supposed to be marking Bellamy (who IMO has been City's best attacking threat this season). But he allowed Bellamy to put in some dangerous crosses.
    Ferdinand 8 Was very good.
    Evans - 6 Was out of position couple of times.
    Evra 7 - Nice interplay with Giggs.
    Nani 7 - Did ok considering he hardly got any support from Rafael. He needs to be stronger on the ball though. Is easily knocked off the ball.
    Fletcher 8 - His energy and drive was important in breaking City
    Scholes 8.5 - Brilliant passing game. He still has something to offer in a 3 man mid. Controlled the midfield and his diagonal crosses very spot on.
    Carrick 7.5 - After a long time our midfield ticked. Every 1 of the 3 was doing their respective jobs w/o getting in each other's way.
    Giggs 7.5 - Most of his ambitious long balls and through balls found their target. Also a very good cross for the final goal.
    Rooney 8
     
  17. Dark Savante

    Dark Savante Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Become the Tea Pot!!
    Van der Sar - 7
    Rafael - 5 - he's nowhere near ready for the likes of Bellamy. To be fair, Bellamy has shredded a lot of FB's this season, so Rafael's performance wasn't just of his own making.
    Ferdinand - 8
    Evans - 7
    Evra - 6.5
    Nani - 6.5
    Fletcher - 8
    Scholes - 8.5
    Carrick - 8.5 MoM
    Giggs - 6.5
    Rooney - 8.5
    Brown - 5
    Valencia - 6
     
  18. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Rafael won more challenges with Bellamy than he lost. Rio covered the rest. I think out of all the times Bellamy has played us, he was relatively quiet.
     
  19. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    What you should have been noting was how often he left Bellamy in space when he didn't have cover. Rafa only went in for challenges that favored him and he still lost some of those. There were countless times when due to his fear of being beat, he stayed inside and allowed his man miles of space to cross the ball.
     
  20. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    I dont think this is so bad. Allow craig Bellamy to run outside and use his weaker foot, as opposed to getting beat on the inside and allowing a chance on his right?

    I'll watch the game again, but Rafael showed an improvement on his first game vs. Bellamy.
     
  21. Dark Savante

    Dark Savante Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Become the Tea Pot!!
    That's not really relevant though, is it?

    Defenders and rear-guard players aren't judged by such criteria, they're judged by how critical their errors are, what they lead to and whether they are a weak and attackable link in the defensive chain, first and foremost.

    There's many other tangibles, but what you've said is of very little worth for a defender.. or at least defender on the defensive end.
     
  22. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    benni is right.

    Rafael was better this time around against Bellamy.

    This is reflected in his rating going up from 4 to 5.

    I do think DS (amongst others) gave a slightly generous mark to Evans.
     

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