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  1. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
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    Manchester United FC
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    Jamaica
    worse yet when other players are taking as much as a 70% pay cut
     
  2. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    They are actually trying to argue cutting their wages will hurt government revenue and in turn, the NHS.

    Its outrageous. That's the last thing the government and people are worried about right now.

    And some players saying it will hurt their ability to do charity work?

    ******** that. They should be taking a 30% cut AND doing the same charity work.

    Assholes.
     
  3. Red Jeph

    Red Jeph Member+

    Aug 26, 2006
    Chicago
    I think their point is why should they take a pay cut without assurances where it’s going or that the club’s finances are in serious danger. Why should they give up money for the owners to pocket?
     
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  4. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
  5. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
  6. LA. MAN UNITED

    LA. MAN UNITED Member+

    May 22, 2006
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. Amdrag

    Amdrag Member+

    Jun 10, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    But are they not right? If they are actually costing the NHS money, what is the point? This is before we get into the fact that any wage cut could probably be covered by these owners, who are more afraid of dipping into their own pockets, unfreezing assets or selling at a loss, then anything else. They are protecting their money, so lets get mad at the players?

    Also why care about what the government thinks? This is the UK government that woefully prepared for this situation and is not asking those they take money from to take pay cuts, while they continuing to cut staff to protect their vast amounts of wealth?

    The players should take some wage deferments, but it should be on a club by club basis and done to cover the cost of keeping all staff employed. Because a blanket 30% pay cut sounds like the owners, who are almost universally rich in the PL, not wanting to pay their part.

    Why are we even going to athletes for this? The vast majority come from low income backgrounds. They weren't born rich. There are plenty who are though, who are just skating by because they aren't visible. What sense does that make? This reminds me of Amazon asking for donations to pay for extra workers. It's flippin Amazon, owned by Jeff "too rich to die" Bezos? Come on.
     
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  8. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
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    Manchester United FC
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    Jamaica
  9. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Pep's mom just died from COVID 19.
     
  11. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's some real sad and shitty news for Pep. Condolences (and thoughts/prayers) to Pep and his whole family.
    Same goes of course for anyone losing loved ones at this time though, with all the restrictions currently in place, affecting things a great deal in that situation...
     
  12. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
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    Manchester United FC
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    Jamaica
  14. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
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    May 31, 2015
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  15. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
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  16. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
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    Manchester United FC
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  17. Naboomagnoli

    Naboomagnoli Member+

    May 31, 2007
    Late to the party, but agree with Amdrag tbh. I completely see the argument for getting playing staff to agree to cut their wages, but the way the Health Secretary of a Conservative government that is as heavily weighted towards the needs of the wealthy as it has been in 30 years, is using his time in front of the nation to score cheap hot-take points over footballers is despicable. There are people sick and dying who need advice, help, solace, encouragement. Instead he's trying to diver the anger and frustration of those in lockdown towards some rich people, whilst not at any point mentioning any of those in the Old Boys' Club who fund his party.

    Not saying footballers are utterly beyond reproach. But it took several days for the Tories to even acknowledge those who are self employed, and the universal credit scheme involved months' worth of waiting for any benefits before the global pandemic kicked in. The Home Secretary has said before that anyone earning under £25k should be considered low-skilled, in the context of immigration. That's nurses, paramedics, most of those we are now calling 'key workers'. We have fruit and veg that will rot in fields without an influx of foreign workers to pick them. Everything about where we are now is the result of the past ten years of diverting public anger about austerity and the promotion of inequality into prejudice and populism.

    Generally I don't want to criticise the handling of this crisis as I know that politics has comparatively little part to play when disaster mode has fully kicked in, and the PM seems to have been mainly acting the advice of actual experts - a breakthrough compared to the past 5 years. But there is so much to be said about the previous 10 years that has left us working with what we currently have.

    Hope everybody's well by the way.
     
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  18. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Excellent from the players, especially in light of some of the crap they had to deal with following Hancock's comments.
    And apparently, this was well under way prior to all that unfortunate business.
    [​IMG]
     
  19. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good docu on one of the best ballers currently in the game. Great story and a good human apparently as well.



    Obviously, no one is perfect as we well know... :cool:
     
  20. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
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    Manchester United FC
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    United States
    #145 Ashur, Apr 13, 2020
    Last edited: Apr 13, 2020
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    Here's hoping that this statement will put any rumors (to United particularly) to bed. Might be an unpopular opinion but have really no interest/desire in Kane coming to the club anyhow (especially for £150-200mil).
     
  21. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
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    Manchester United FC
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    United States
  22. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    I was just about to ask, does anyone really want Harry Kane here?

    Personally, ill pass.
     
  23. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I would take him. He seems like a player that can adapt to the team and also build around as well. He would fit in and not sure any players who this would impact is untouchable
     
  24. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    My concern is his gimpy ankle. Hes clearly damaged goods. For that price its a no brainer.
     
  25. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Going after Kane would mean that United's chances of getting Sancho would be down to zero. That factor alone is enough to pass on him in my estimation. But then, it can be argued as noted above that he's an injury risk as well: that's 2 seasons now in a row where he's missed significant time because of an ankle injury (and those can often become recurring).
    And 3rd, there are enough quality strikers worth going after who won't blow a hole in the transfer budget either and allow us to strengthen in actual positions of more significant need. CF is not a priority compared to a RW/RWF or even a DCM in my estimation.
     

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