Placar Rankings Brazilian League

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  1. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Brasilerao Inter-Decade 1975-84
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    4 points: Baltazar, Palhinha, J.Mendonça, Mário Sergio, Tarciso, ...
    3 points: Ancheta, Careca, Fillol, Luis Pereira, Luizinho, Mozer, W.Corbo, Tita, ...



    Top players:
    1) Zico --------------- 20 points
    2) Falcao ----------- 15
    --- P.Isidoro --------- 15
    4) Sócrates ----------- 12
    --- T.Cerezo ----------- 12
    6) Carlos G. --------- 11
    7) Batista -------------- 10
    8) Nelinho ---------------9
    ---- Raúl P ---------------- 9
    10) Figueroa ------- 8

    8 points: Leao, D.Pereyra, Reinaldo, Manga, Wladimir, Joao Leite, Joel Mendes
    7 points: Junior, De León, Renato F, Roberto Costa, W.Peres, Chicao, Joaozinho, Zenon



    Team A:
    -------------------------------- CARLOS
    NELINHO --- FIGUEROA --- D.PEREYRA --- JUNIOR
    --------- FALCAO ------- T.CEREZO -------- ZICO
    RENATO G -------- REINALDO ----------- PAULO CESAR

    Team B:
    ----------------------------- Leao
    Ze María --- Marinho F --- De León --- Wladimir
    ----- Sócrates ----- Batista ------- P.Isidoro
    Tarciso ------------ R.Dinamite ---------- Joaozinho

    Bench: Raúl, Oscar, Marco Antonio, Carpegiani, Renato Frederico, Serginho, Eder.


    Decade Top Averages (cummulative stars grades)

    ------------- Avg top50 -- Avg top10 -- Team-A
    1970-79------- 6.92-------- 11.70-------- 10.45
    1975-84------- 7.34-------- 12.10------- 10.00
     
  2. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Brasilerao 1985

    This year, Brasilerao 1985, it was played between Jan 26 and Jul 31, consisting in two stages, plus Final Phase. 44 clubs played the tournament.

    Final Ranking
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    Note:
    In the Brasilerao 85, it was given 0.2 aditional points to players from clubs playing Final game (Bangu-Coritiba).

    Better teams:

    CORITIBA: Rafael - André, Gomes, Heraldo, Dida - Almir, Marildo, Toby (Aragonés) - Lela, Indio, Edson
    BANGÚ: Gilmar C - Marcio Nunes, Jair, Oliveira, Baby - israel, Lulinha, Mário Marques - Marinho, Joao Claudio, Ado

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  3. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    #153 msioux75, Jun 25, 2022
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2022
    Top 50 players - Brasilerao 1985
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    I don't count players who played < 18 games.

    Outside top 50:
    NELINHO - RB - At.Mineiro - 6.74
    JULIO CÉSAR - CB - Guarani - 6.72
    REINALDO - CF - At.Mineiro - 6.60
    WLADIMIR - LB - Corinthians - 6.50
    ANDRADE - DM - Flamengo - 6.50
    GEOVANI - CM - Vasco - 6.48


    Stars not making the list:
    R.Rodríguez (Uru), Fillol (Arg), Josimar, Diogo (Uru), D.Pereyra (Uru), de León (Uru), Ricardo Gomes, Nené Santana, Branco, Caçapava, Donato, Dunga, Falcao, C.Aragonés (Bol), Paulo Isidoro, Renato Frederico, A.Sabella (Arg), Zico, Renato Gaúcho, Ricky Daddy (Nig) Serginho, Baltazar, Mirandinha.


    Brasilerao 1985 Ideal Team
    ---------------------------- Rafael
    Luis Carlos ----- Leandro ----- Oscar ----- Bezerra
    --- Romerito --- Regis --- Dema --- R.Paz
    ------------ Marinho ------------ Careca

    Changes in Bola de Prata 1985. Bezerra x Baby, Oscar x M.Galvao, Regis x Alemao, Romerito x Ado.
     
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  4. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Brasilerao 1986

    This year, Brasilerao 1986, it was played between Aug 30 and next year-Feb 25, consisting in two stages, plus Final Phase. 48 clubs played the tournament.

    Final Ranking
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    Note:
    In the Brasilerao 86, Placar added 0.3 extra points in player's ratings from clubs playing Final game (Sao Paulo - Guarani).

    Better teams:

    SAO PAULO: Gilmar - Zé Teodoro, Wagner B, D.Pereyra, Nelsinho - Bernardo, Silas, Pita - Müller, Careca, Sidnei
    GUARANI: Sérgio Nery - Marco Antônio, R.Rocha, Fernando, Zé Mário - Tozin, Tite, Boiadeiro - Chiquinho C, Evair, João Paulo

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  5. wm442433

    wm442433 Member+

    Sep 19, 2014
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    It intrigued me : so I verified and yes... João Paulo is Donizetti, maybe sometimes spelled "Donizete" btw... I just made the connection now
     
  6. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    #156 msioux75, Jun 25, 2022
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2022
    Top 50 players - Brasilerao 1986
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    I don't count players who played < 19 games.

    Outside top 50:
    ELZO - DM - At.Mineiro - 6.94
    MÜLLER - RW - Sao Paulo - 6.81
    JOAO PAULO - LW - Corinthians - 6.77
    ALDAIR - LB - Flamengo - 6.73
    WLADIMIR - LB - Ponte Preta - 6.71
    ROMARIO - LW - Vasco - 6.70


    Stars not making the list:
    R.Rodríguez (Uru), Josimar, Diogo (Uru), Jorginho, Leandro, Oscar, Julio César, de León (uru), M.Galvao, Branco, Caçapava, Donato, Alemao, Dunga, Falcao, S.Santín (Uru), Geovani, R.Paz (Uru), Socrates, Renato Frederico, A.Sabella (Arg), Raí, Romerito, Renato Gaúcho, Bebeto, Ricky Daddy (Nig) R.Dinamite, Reinaldo, Eder.


    Brasilerao 1986 Ideal Team
    -------------------------- Gilmar
    Alfinete ----- R.Rocha ----- D.Pereyra ----- Nelsinho
    -- Jorginho P --- Bernardo --- Pita --- Joao Paulo
    ---------- Sérgio Araújo ------------- Careca

    No changes in Bola de Prata 1986.
     
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  7. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    #157 msioux75, Jun 25, 2022
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2022
    There are many players with the "same name". So, I checked ogol.com.br for any doubts (click on each club to access full squad).
     
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  8. wm442433

    wm442433 Member+

    Sep 19, 2014
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    and Joao Paulo of the previous page in the thread is Joao Paulo Lima ok.
    They play at the same position and "Joao Paulo" is a nickame for Sergio Luis Donizetti it seems, so maybe he was nicknamed after the previous Joao Paulo?
     
  9. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    #159 msioux75, Jun 25, 2022
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2022
    Brasilerao 1987

    This year, Brasilerao 1987, was played between 30/8/87 and 07/02/88.
    It was a weird tournament, due to financial and organizational crisis, 32 clubs were separated into 2 Modules:
    * Green Module = Copa Uniao (16 most recognized clubs)
    * Yellow Module = Copa Brazil (16 remaining better clubs)

    For the title, the better 2 clubs from each Module, must had played a Quadrangular, but Green Module finalists, abdicated giving a WO to Yellow Module finalist clubs, whom were declared champion and vice-champion.

    Placar elected his Bola de Prata XI, from Green Module players only.

    Final Ranking
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    Note:
    In the Brasilerao 87 (Copa Uniao), Placar added 0.1 extra points in final ratings to players from Semifinalist clubs (Cruzeiro and At.Mineiro) and added 0.2 extra points to players from finalist clubs (Flamengo and Internacional).

    Better teams:
    SPORT RECIFE: Flávio - Betão, Estevam, Marco Antonio, Zé Carlos Macaé - Rogério, Zico II, Ribamar - Robertinho, Nando, Neco
    FLAMENGO: Cantareli - Jorginho, Leandro, Edinho, Aldair - Andrade, Adilio, Zico - Renato Gaúcho, Bebeto, Zinho
     
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  10. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Top 50 players - Brasilerao 1987
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    I don't count players who played < 12 games (R.Gomes, Lé, D.Pereyra).

    Stars not making the list:
    F.Alvez (Uru), Carlos, R.Rojas (Chi), Josimar, Diogo (Uru), Jorginho, R.Rocha, Mozer, de León (Uru), M.Galvao, F.Astengo (Chi), Donato, Dunga, Geovani, Silas, Raí, Romerito, Romário, Joao Paulo Lima, Joao Paulo Donizetti, Eder.


    Brasilerao 1987 Ideal Team
    ---------------------- R.Rodríguez
    Luiz Carlos ----- Aloísio ----- Luizinho ----- Mazinho
    ----- Zico ----- Milton ----- Noberto ----- Berg
    ------ Renato Gaúcho ---------- Renato F

    Changes in Bola de Prata 1987. R.Rodríguez x Taffarel
     
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  11. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Brasilerao 1988

    This year, Brasilerao 1988, was played between 02/9/88 and 19/02/89, by 24 clubs
    At First Phase, it was divided in Groups (A, B). At 1st stage, all teams played against clubs from the other Group. At 2nd stage, all teams played against clubs from same Group.
    Final Phase was played in KO format with 4 better clubs from each Group.

    Ranking missing Finals and SF second leg (3 games)
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    Note:
    In the Brasilerao 88, Placar added 0.1 extra points in final ratings to players from Semifinalist clubs (Fluminense and Gremio) and added 0.2 extra points to players from finalist clubs (Bahia and Internacional).

    Better teams:
    BAHIA: Sidmar - Tarantini, João Marcelo, Pereira, Edinho - Paulo Rodrigues, Zé Carlos, Bobô - Osmar, Charles, Marquinhos
    VASCO: Acácio - Paulo Roberto, Zé do Carmo, Célio, Mazinho - Donato, Geovani, Henrique, Bismarck - Vivinho, Romário.
     
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  12. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    #162 msioux75, Jun 25, 2022
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2022
    Top 50 players - Brasilerao 1988 (missing 2 final games)
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    I don't count players who played < 16 games (yellow cells)

    Note:

    This year, Placar applied stricter grades, were from 0-10. I relaxed my own "star grades", accordingly.

    Stars not making the list:
    F.Alvez (Uru), Carlos, R.Rojas (Chi), Josimar, Diogo (Uru), Jorginho, Leandro, R.Rocha, D.Pereyra (Uru), Ricardo Gomes, F.Astengo (Chi), Donato, Silas, Raí, Romerito, Valdo, Renato Gaúcho, Müller, Romário, Joao Paulo Lima, Joao Paulo Donizetti.


    Brasilerao 1988 Ideal Team
    ------------------------------ Taffarel
    Alfinete ----- Aguirregaray ----- Marcelo ----- Mazinho
    -- Bobó --- P.Rodrigues --- Donizete --- Bismarck
    ------- Vivinho ------------------------- Nilson

    Changes in Bola de Prata 1988. Marcelo Djian x Pereira, Donizete x Adilson, Bismarck x Zinho.
     
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  13. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Brasilerao 1989

    This year, Brasilerao 1989, was played between Sep 06 and Dec 16, by 22 clubs. It was played in two Phases and Final game.

    First Phase Ranking (10 games)
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    Note:
    At Second Phase, all teams played +8 games (excluding Coritiba, banned) and +1 game, finalist clubs.

    Better teams:
    VASCO: Acácio - LC.Winck, Quiñonez, Marco Aurélio, Mazinho - Zé do Carmo, Boiadeiro, Bismarck, William - Bebeto, S.Anderson
    SAO PAULO: Gilmar - Ze Teodoro, Adílson, Ricardo Rocha, Nelsinho - Vizolli, Bobô, Raí - Mário Tilico, Ney Bala, Edivaldo.

    Brasilerao 1989 Ideal Team
    -------------------------- Gilmar
    Balu ----- R.Rocha ----- Paulo Sergio ----- Mazinho
    ----- Raí ----- Elzo ----- Bobó ----- Bismarck
    --------- Bizu -------------------- Túlio
     
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  14. Lincon18762

    Lincon18762 Member

    Jun 26, 2021
    Are there any ratings for R-SP tournament?
     

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