Post-match: PL MD10: Chelsea v Tottenham Hotspur - Nov. 29, 2020

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by electrickeeper, Nov 27, 2020.

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Result?

Poll closed Nov 29, 2020.
  1. Spurs win by 2 goals or more

    25.0%
  2. Spurs win by 1 goal

    25.0%
  3. Draw

    25.0%
  4. Chelsea win by 1 goal

    12.5%
  5. Chelsea win by 2 goals or more

    12.5%
  1. electrickeeper

    electrickeeper The Ginger Pele
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Oct 14, 2002
    The Cheese Room
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    CHELSEA V TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR
    PREMIER LEAGUE
    SUNDAY 29 NOVEMBER
    STAMFORD BRIDGE
    KICK-OFF: 4.30PM GMT


    THFC Injuries & Suspensions

    - Toby Alderweireld (out, groin/hip)
    - Erik Lamela (25%, calf/shin/heel)
    - Giovani Lo Celso (50%, knock)
    - Hugo Lloris (75%, knock)
    - Steven Bergwijn (75%, knock)

    Chelsea Injuries & Suspensions

    - Christian Pulisic (100%, thigh)

    Form (all comps)
    THFC - WWWWW
    Chelsea - WWWWW

    Officials
    Referee
    : Paul Tierney
    Assistants: Lee Betts, Ian Hussin
    Fourth official: Mike Dean
    VAR: Craig Pawson
    Assistant VAR: Stephen Child

    Odds (for entertainment purposes only)
    Tottenham win: +260
    Draw: +250
    Chelsea win: +110


    There've been rumblings that Rodon will get his first PL start tomorrow. Vinicius not only was awarded the Europa League player of the week, but he also made it so that Kane and Son didn't need to play a single minute Thursday, massive value.

    ek's predicted XI
    Lloris
    Aurier - Dier - Rodon - Reguilon
    Hojbjerg - Ndombele - Sissoko
    Lucas - Kane - Son​

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  2. GeorgeBest9

    GeorgeBest9 Red Card

    Oct 26, 2020
    This is a big test. Mourinho may try to play for a draw. We are decent on the counter. Chelsea and Lampard are very good. Better than Man City. I expect us to lose but if anyone can get a result it is Mourinho. Also, if we do win, we are favourites for the league.
     
  3. electrickeeper

    electrickeeper The Ginger Pele
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    Tottenham Hotspur
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    Oct 14, 2002
    The Cheese Room
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lloris
    Aurier - Dier - Rodon - Reguilon
    Sissoko - Hojbjerg
    Son - Ndombele - Bergwijn
    Kane​
    COYS and all that
     
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  4. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
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    Nov 3, 2001
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    Damn! Bergwijn hits over after a near perfect counter.
     
  5. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
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    Nov 3, 2001
    Indiana
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    Werner goal disallowed for offside.
     
  6. GeorgeBest9

    GeorgeBest9 Red Card

    Oct 26, 2020
    Half time. 0-0. We seem to be in control but it is a 6/10 performance. Bergwijn and Kane have been off it. Bale for Bergwijn seems an obvious choice but may lose pace. Dele on the bench as an extra 3rd striker really wouldn't have hurt us imo. I don't see how Vinicius, Lucas, or Lo Celso help us much but willing to be wrong.
     
  7. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
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    Nov 3, 2001
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    We're tough to break down, that's for sure. Aurier's was the only shot on goal that I can recall, for either side. Not exactly riveting stuff, to be honest.
     
  8. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
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    Nov 3, 2001
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    Did Ndombele go the whole 90 on Thursday? Could see LoCelso for him for fresher legs at around the hour mark. Bale for Bergwijn, yes, but later than sooner, I'd think. Depends on how the next 15-20 minutes go, I suppose.

    Here we go. COYS
     
  9. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
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    LoCelso for Ndombele. 65'
     
  10. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
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    Nov 3, 2001
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    Giroud on. Things opening up just a bit. Still could have a goal in it.
     
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  11. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
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    Nov 3, 2001
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    Big time save from Hugo, there.
     
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  12. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
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    Nov 3, 2001
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    Davies for Bergwijn.
     
  13. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
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    Nov 3, 2001
    Indiana
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    4 minutes of stoppage time.
     
  14. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
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    Nov 3, 2001
    Indiana
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    Lucas for Son with just a couple minutes left.
     
  15. GeorgeBest9

    GeorgeBest9 Red Card

    Oct 26, 2020
    I feel Mourinho played for a 0-0.

    I don't think it was the right move for winning the league, but it was the right move in the 2019 League Cup semi-final second leg, which is something Pochettino could never do.

    I feel this was the sort of game Bale or Dele would have won.
     
  16. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
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    Nov 3, 2001
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    Gifted opportunities at each end which Giroud and LoCelso squander, respectively.

    I suppose I can't complain about a draw in this fixture. Back to the top of the table on goal differential. Not bad, but a bit meh.
     
  17. electrickeeper

    electrickeeper The Ginger Pele
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    No idea what Lo Celso was thinking with that last "shot."

    0-0 is about right. Rodon impressed me, think that'll prove to be a good signing as the season progresses.

    Liverpool, Southampton, and Sevilla are the only other clubs to get something at Stamford Bridge so far this season. I think this will end up being a good point earned.
     
  18. adrenaline11

    adrenaline11 Member+

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    Take the money and run.
     
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  19. Lazy Assed Assassin

    Jul 21, 2015
    Agreed on Roldon looking promising aside from the error at the end. I’m sure this will be seen as boring-boring Mourinho. Can’t say I disagree, but can’t say I’m disappointed. Draws at Stamford Bridge were frequently hanging on under siege, this was comfortable and pragmatic. Also addressed a frequent complaint that Spurs were unable to take points from the top 4; seven points from nine available across two away, one home is a decent return.
     
  20. pookspur

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    Nov 3, 2001
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    I don't think we're going to see Bale much when we've set up like this, when we're not going to have much of the ball. I just don't think - and doubt Mourinho thinks - that he does enough out of possession.
     
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  21. GeorgeBest9

    GeorgeBest9 Red Card

    Oct 26, 2020
    Yeah, but to be blatantly honest Kane, Bergwijn, Lo Celso, and Lucas did not do enough in possession in the final third. If Dele does any of those performances he gets thrown under the bus. I don't think Bale wastes the last opportunity and no harm in bringing him on for 5 minutes.
     
  22. Golara

    Golara Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    #22 Golara, Nov 29, 2020
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2020
    A Jose classic away from home. The difference from last season is that Jose is starting to get into the heads of the other managers. Last season, Chelsea had no fear going into this fixture, this time around, Frank set his team up a lot more conservatively than he would want because of our threat on the counter.

    I think the one thing we have lacked under previous managers is an ability to dig in and grind out a result against top sides away, How many times have we heard a Martin Jol, a Harry Redknapp an AVB, a Tactics Tim or a Pochettino proclaim we'll go into an away game against a top side and "Play our football" only to be down 2-0 after 20 minutes?

    Cheering for Jose is like holding your nose and voting for a party you normally wouldn't support to keep out the party you don't want to win.
     
  23. GeorgeBest9

    GeorgeBest9 Red Card

    Oct 26, 2020
    We can grind out results now, and that is an achievement, which Poch didn't do towards the end of his tenure. However, Poch has actually won away against Chelsea, which is something Mourinho hasn't done, and something that cost him any league title hopes at United.

    Ideally we could merge all previous managers and take the best for the time needed.
     
  24. Golara

    Golara Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Correction, Mourinho did win away at Chelsea with Inter in the CL back in 2010.
     
  25. GeorgeBest9

    GeorgeBest9 Red Card

    Oct 26, 2020
    Context, Premier League with Spurs.

    Recent football heritage, second in the league at United.

    A big achievement, just saying, playing too tight away against top 6-7 doesn't work like it used to when he finished 1st. Mainly because a win and a loss beats two draws and at least 2-3 other teams can still win every game until the end if they turn it on.
     

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