PK restart Matrix

Discussion in 'Referee' started by soccerman8067, Jul 13, 2012.

  1. soccerman8067

    soccerman8067 Member

    Jul 24, 2008
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey all,

    Not sure if this was a U.S. soccer thing or just something my old local board used to do but I'm looking for a PK restart matrix. Does anyone have something they use to easily help teach/memorize the restarts for all the crazy stuff that can happen on a PK?
     
  2. RichM

    RichM Member

    Barcelona
    United States
    Nov 18, 2009
    Meridian, ID
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Something different than the chart in the ATR?

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  3. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    But don't forget the exceptions: If the ball is kicked backwards or is kicked by a player other than the identified kicker, IFK to defense regardless of what happens.
     
  4. RichM

    RichM Member

    Barcelona
    United States
    Nov 18, 2009
    Meridian, ID
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, of course.. That stuff is right below the chart on the same page in the ATR under "Exceptions"
     
  5. gosellit

    gosellit BigSoccer Supporter

    May 10, 2005
    This is actually is part of a question on the 2012-2013 State Test
     
  6. soccerman771

    soccerman771 Member

    Jul 16, 2011
    Dallas, Texas area
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have a question on this.

    Here's the scenario. White vs Blue, White is taking the PK. White player encroaches the top of the "d" by one step and you see it. White takes the kick, keeper saves. However, ball comes off the keeper and falls to the kicker - the one that took the kick - and he blasts it in the back of the net.

    Re-kick?

    I had this happen to me a few months ago and I let the goal stand. The player that encroached knew he messed up and said "awe *$%&" and then took two steps back. At the kick, he had no impact on the play and no one else impacted the play at all. No complaints from coaches or players at all.
     
  7. JimEWrld

    JimEWrld Member

    Jun 20, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    It should be a IFK coming out at the top of D. The goal should not stand because of the encroachment. If the keeper had held onto it you may have made a case for advantage, however there was an infringement on white, the ball did not enter the goal, and the keeper did not maintain possession so we should have a whistle and IFK.
     
  8. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009

    Mostly agree. Though the initial question is whether ITOOTR the infringement was trfiling. Many referees will find a step at the top of the D trifling unless the infringing player gets to the ball.

    That gives two possible conclusions on this play:
    • The infringement was trifling and the goal stands; or
    • The infringement was not trifling, in which case the restart is a IFK for the defense.
    (There is no possibility of having a retake -- a retake on an attacking infringment requires that the ball go directly into the goal. Putting in a rebound does not qualify as a goal being scored from the PK.)
     
  9. NHRef

    NHRef Member+

    Apr 7, 2004
    Southern NH
    So, the "infringer" took a step in, when"oh no" and stepped back out, has no effect on play and you want to call the goal back, and award an IFK?

    This may be 100% technically correct, with the exception of "trifling" we don't call trifling things. If you proceed with an IFK here, be prepared to lose the players respect and control of the game.
     
  10. cinepro

    cinepro Member

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I've got to say that the "Consequences of Law 14" is one of the areas of refereeing that seems to involve a lot of counter intuitive thinking, and one where the infringements are "trifling" more often than not.

    I've even heard of someone getting marked down in an assessment because a defender infringed into the PA on a kick (just a step), but the kicker shanked it way over the goal. So the ref called a re-kick. The assessor said that even though the ref was "technically correct", the defender didn't influence the kick at all, and the kicker had a fair kick and the kicker screwed it up. So it should have been a goal kick.
     
  11. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    Agreed. Have you ever seen a PK in professional game in which no one infringed the PA before the ball was kicked? Draconian enforcement would make our lives easier in many ways, as players would stop doing it if they believed it would be called; but that just isn't how it's percieved in the spirit of the game.
     
  12. JimEWrld

    JimEWrld Member

    Jun 20, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I'm not saying that I would call back the goal, but per the LOTG it'd be an IFK. I'd have to actually see the situation to give an opinion on the play.
     
  13. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would look at it this way, a PK is just another restart and the idea of not allowing anyone in the area is simply to maintain at least 10 yards, just like all other free kicks. How many of you have done a game where the attacking team executed a really good step over on a free kick and tricked the player in the wall into taking an early step forward? Did you give a caution/retake if the ball when sailing by the wall with no impact on the play there? No? Then apply this principle to the PK. If you think the early movement in any way affected the kicker, angle of the shot, or goalie then by all means punish the infraction, otherwise let the play go on.

    On the flip side, the only problem I have with not giving the IFK is that the players verbal admission seems to point out what happened. It is sort of like the play that happens when you have a maybe, maybe not handling and you are planning to let the play continue till the offending player gives the little dejected arms thrown up in the air in frustration and everyone stops. At that point you may be stuck.

    All of this is said with the idea, you probably had to be there to see how things actually played out.
     
    JimEWrld repped this.
  14. Scrabbleship

    Scrabbleship Member

    May 24, 2012
    Following this same principle, it's a good way to remember that - just like any other other restart - the player can't touch it twice unless it's been touched by an opponent first. (see: PK kick rebounding off posts).
     
  15. wykell

    wykell Member

    Jun 9, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    I laugh every time I watch this video.
     
  16. refontherun

    refontherun Member+

    Jul 14, 2005
    Georgia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've never screwed up any of these restarts before:rolleyes::oops: , but I have a laminated copy of this in my book behind my scoresheet.
     
  17. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009

    I'd suggest that if you parse through the logic behind the grid, you won't need the grid any more -- put simply, the infringing team can never have a successful result on the PK.
    • If both teams infringe, neither team is able to have a sucessful result, so it is always a retake.
    • If the defending team infirnges, it cannot have a succesful result (i.e., a non-goal), so unless the goal is scored the PK must be retaken.
    • If the attacking team infiringes, it cannot have a successful result (i.e., a goal), so
      • (a) if they scored directly from the PK, then it must be retaken to void the successful result;
      • (b) if they did not score, play needs to be stopped to prevent them from scoring on the rebound, hence the IFK to the defense to prevent the possibility of a benefit from the ball being in play while avoiding the unfairness of giving them as second bite at the apple.
    And then you just have to remember the two outliers (1) the wrong player taking the kick or (2) kicking the ball backwards, which are considered such blatant offenses against the PK procedures that the team forfeits its right to the PK.
     

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