This just happened in the League 2 playoff final, though I'm less concerned about the specific instance and more wondering about the general rule. Player in the box pokes a pass to a teammate. Just after he releases the ball, but before the ball gets to his teammate, he's clearly (may or may not have been clear in the playoff game) fouled. However the teammate that receives the pass is offside. So when does the offside offense technically happen? When the pass is made (and thus before the foul and any PK) or when the pass is received (so after the foul happens)? I thought it was the latter, but the announcers, for what that's worth, seemed to suggest that since he had already passed it to an offside teammate the PK couldn't be called.
It's when the teammate becomes involved in play. "It is not an offense to be in an offside position." Even the restart has recognized that now - it takes place where the teammate became involved, even if that spot is on the team's own end of the field.
As implied from the answer above, if a foul occurs like holding before the ball arrives, then it’s a foul. Sounds like a foul and penalty in the match you described, based upon the description, of course. There are two added wrinkle to this, though. If the ball is close enough to be within playing distance and the attacker in the offside position physically challenges the defender for the ball, then offside is triggered slightly before the actual touch on the ball occurs. This is literally a question of less than a second of difference. But it matters, particular at the professional level, because fouls in this sort of situation can often occur at the point the attacker challenges for the ball. Also, if the attacker in the offside position has made a clear action that impacts the defender before the ball arrives and before the foul occurs, he can trigger the offside offence first. So, for example, if the attacker ran into the back of the defender and then the defender grabbed the attacker to foul him, the initial physical contact from the attacker could very much trigger offside (this hypothetical is obviously a total “you had to (imaginarily) be there”). Depending upon the type of contact, it could also be a foul by the attacker, too, but I’m thinking more about incidental contact that is not foul play but has an impact on the defender. Bottom line is that in most cases offside doesn’t occur until the ball actually arrives. So in most cases like this referees should be calling a foul. But there are exceptions so don’t take it as a blanket rule.
Yeah, I wouldn't call this a missed call necessarily, not without taking another look at it, but it made me ask the question. The attacking players were only a couple of years apart so the exact timing of when the ball arrived at the receiver versus when the passer was fouled would have been very tight.
It also depends on the foul. Can it be considered trifling if it doesn't affect play? If the passer is taken out, it is obviously not trifling!