Review: Piero Alva vs Waldir Saenz

Discussion in 'Peru - Clubs' started by FARFAN 17, Sep 25, 2010.

  1. FARFAN 17

    FARFAN 17 Member

    Jan 29, 2005
    Back in NJ :(
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    WTF I thought that was that model Tyson beckford (sp?) for a second.

    no homo
     
  2. Dominican Lou

    Dominican Lou Member+

    Nov 27, 2004
    1936 Catalonia
    Piero > Waldir, all day, every day.

    He's getting up there in age so he might as well go.
     
  3. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    Re: Transfers Rumours - Part 6

    really?

    Waldir was actually pretty damm good for Alianza much more so than Piero ever was for la U

    he just couldnt do jack for any other team, in that regard Piero and Wally are similar:D
     
  4. el Rafaa

    el Rafaa Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 7, 2007
    Somewhere in MA
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Re: Transfers Rumours - Part 6

    claro para el bien del club que nos deje algun dinero y para su futuro economico, despues de este clasico parece que su salida es eminente
     
  5. Mr. Beelzebub

    Mr. Beelzebub Member

    Jun 12, 2007
    West New York
    Re: Transfers Rumours - Part 6

    Yo creo que su salida es INMINENTE porque eminente significa algo completamente diferente, sino preguntale a su EMINENCIA el Papa.
     
  6. Dominican Lou

    Dominican Lou Member+

    Nov 27, 2004
    1936 Catalonia
    Re: Transfers Rumours - Part 6

    Well, I meant as a potential MLS player.

    I'll bet anything that he'd do better than Wally at Colorado.
     
  7. Guti™

    Guti™ Moderator

    Mar 6, 2005
    La Victoria
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Re: Transfers Rumours - Part 6

    Even I could get some minutes at Colorado Rapids. [\Lou]
     
  8. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    Re: Transfers Rumours - Part 6

    well I dunno bout that, so far Piero has been next to useless wearing any other shirt other than la crema
     
  9. passat1976

    passat1976 Member+

    Oct 19, 2007
    USA
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Re: Transfers Rumours - Part 6

    Time to settle this Waldir vs Piero crapola...

    Piero Alva no es gran cosa pero el Zorro haria mejor papel que Waldir en la MLS, eso ni vuelta que dar...

    Waldir realmente fue un zambito acomplejado como jugador... Jugadores que solo se sienten comodos en el medio local, pero que no tiene jerarquia ni personalidad para jugar afuera...

    Hay que pensar, que Waldir fracaso feo en la MLS cuando la MLS era practicamente 90% college players back in the day :eek:... That's how bad Waldir sucked at MLS...
     
  10. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    Re: Transfers Rumours - Part 6

    Waldir hizo mas que Piero en Peru, de lejos

    y ambos en nada cuando salieron de Peru
     
  11. el Rafaa

    el Rafaa Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 7, 2007
    Somewhere in MA
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Re: Transfers Rumours - Part 6

    Lo peor de todo es que su eminencia Piero Alva siempre parecía resaltar en los partidos contra AL ahora da la impresión que su nivel esta decayendo. Por esa misma razón no creo que pueda hacer mucho en la MLS si se confirma su salida.
     
  12. Guti™

    Guti™ Moderator

    Mar 6, 2005
    La Victoria
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Re: Transfers Rumours - Part 6

    No sean malos pues. Como van a comparar al mequetrefe ese del Alva con Wally. No le llegua ni a los chimpunes ese "idolo de barro" de la U. Por lo menos Wally era goleador aqui en el Peru y eso que antes habia mejor nivel. La verdad, la verdad es que a Piero el unico equipo que lo puede contratar seria uno de provincias porque hace rato que esta pasando piola en la U.
     
  13. julinho97

    julinho97 Member+

    Jan 17, 2009
    Lima, Peru
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Re: Transfers Rumours - Part 6

    para mi los dos fueron/son mediocres pero si hay que comparar me quedo con waldir...en su mejor epoca metia goles acada rato...alva por ahi metio uno que otro gol importante pero me llega al huevo verlo jugar ..siempre quiere hacer una de mas.. una huachita..un lujo.. y es muy lloron
     
  14. locotl

    locotl Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    florida
    Re: Transfers Rumours - Part 6

    Por lo menos Alva hizo un par de buenos partidos con la sele, waldir fue un verdadero desastre con la blanquirroja. A tenido que ser el peor "flop" de toda la historia de la sele. Hasta Kukin tubo sus 5 min de fama con la sele.
     
  15. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    Re: Transfers Rumours - Part 6

    I dont think he was as bad as people made him out to be

    he just wasnt anywhere as good as he was with Alianza Lima, but Alva has never been as good as Wally was with Alianza, not even close
     
  16. Dominican Lou

    Dominican Lou Member+

    Nov 27, 2004
    1936 Catalonia
    Re: Transfers Rumours - Part 6

    I honestly can't remember him being anything other than awful with the NT. Not bad, but fuking awful.

    Piero was respectable.
     
  17. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    Re: Transfers Rumours - Part 6

    respectable?

    German Carty was respectable, Alva got lucky twice:D
     
  18. rick100

    rick100 Member+

    Jun 4, 2009
    Canada
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Re: Transfers Rumours - Part 6


    waldir saenz national team 27 games 3 goals
    Piero alva national team 16 games 3 goals

    International club

    waldir saenz 23 games 6 goals
    Piero alva- 14 games 0 goals


    It seems to me waldir saenz was more succesfull than piero alva at international level , and they are technically tied in goals at the national level

    At the peruvian club level waldir se lo lleva de encuentroa piero alva.

    therefore

    waldir saenz > piero alva
     
  19. Peruvian_6663

    Peruvian_6663 Member+

    May 28, 2005
    In my House
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Re: Transfers Rumours - Part 6

    waldir saenz national team 27 games 3 goals
    Piero alva national team 16 games 3 goals
    das a huge difference he played twice the games and scored the same about? goleador historico my ass, and im pretty sure alva anoto con la U en la libertadores
     
  20. Peruvian_6663

    Peruvian_6663 Member+

    May 28, 2005
    In my House
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Re: Transfers Rumours - Part 6

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfoEU9KZA2o&feature=related"]YouTube - LA U UNIVERSITARIO DE DEPORTES GANA 2-0 A LANUS GRUPO 4 COPA LIBERTADORES[/ame] golaso de alva a lanus

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbxhOlAROHc"]YouTube - Universitario(per) 2- San Luis Potosi(mex) 2 /resumen[/ame]
    gol de alva a san luis potosi

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEQz8QB2Jw0&feature=related"]YouTube - Universitario 2 Libertad 1 Copa santander Libertadores (7-4-2008)[/ame]

    otro golazo de alva

    so yea alva did score goals in an international level
     
  21. rick100

    rick100 Member+

    Jun 4, 2009
    Canada
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Re: Transfers Rumours - Part 6

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2TSfgnBJyk"]YouTube - Especial Goles Waldir Saenz 1998 - ALIANZA LIMA[/ame]

    en la epoca donde jugaban

    dulanto, carranza, solano , pinillos , mendoza, palacios , ubillus , nunes , grondona , chemo, julihno , soto , etc etc etc

    A gran diferenca de ahora donde nisiquiera tenemos un defensa decente en la liga local , no mediocampistas defensivo....
     
  22. Peruvian_6663

    Peruvian_6663 Member+

    May 28, 2005
    In my House
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
  23. rick100

    rick100 Member+

    Jun 4, 2009
    Canada
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Re: Transfers Rumours - Part 6


    topic was who was better, and waldir is much better than alva period..

    At at national level they both sucked. Alva had one lucky goal , you can t say he is good because of that.

    If you want yto bring who was better playing outside peru , then waldir is still better because he had more goals. Alva ent to sante fe and he dint even play a game , then to greece i believe, where he could even score a goal so he sucks.

    Everyone is going to remember waldir because of his goals , noone is going to remember alva because he hasnt done anything especial , just an average player at the peruvian league, while waldir was a goleador
     
  24. AL#7

    AL#7 Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Australia
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
  25. Guti™

    Guti™ Moderator

    Mar 6, 2005
    La Victoria
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Re: Transfers Rumours - Part 6

    LOL at Nero trying to defend anything crema.

    Just ask your own dirigentes what they think about Piero. Every year they try to bring any paquete they can come across to replace him. Ahi no estan los grandes goleadores... Maceratesi, Piriz Alves, Topo Gigena.....
     

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