Saw this on arsenal-world.com and thought people might be interested. Could be our new home jersey: http://www.arsenal-world.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=139906 and certainly not modeled by one of the players.
Sure they didn't get Luhzny in one before he left? Anyway me likes, me likes! They got the madness with the sleeves and the neck sorted out, and it doesn't have a collar although I know several people will be disappointed about this. But I think a simple v-neck is the best way to go on a jersey. I do think the swoosh on the right throws the balance off. If the crest is moved to the center, than perhaps the swoosh should be moved away from the front of the shirt, perhaps on the sleeves(yeah, like Nike would ever consider that). And what's the deal with that yellow piping framing the front? That looks a little dodgy, but all in all a vast improvement over the current home jersey.
I don't like it. If the sponsor were a word or group of words that went left to right instead of a giant circle just below the crest, it would look better. However, given that the contract with O2 goes on for a few more years, the design is a poor choice.
Our model really has eaten all the pies. I have to say though that the shirt pictured does look rather cheap. Could be an imitation.
Spurs? They have those ugly form-fitting ones right? IMO, The Arsenal jersey doesn't look like that at all. As for it being another Nike cookie cutter, there's not much you can do with an Arsenal home jersey. It's pretty much gotta be red on the front and have white sleeves. What would you like to see design wise on the new jersey?
i think dan was using sp*rs as a euphamism for shite...although, wouldn't shite be a better euphamism for sp*rs. there's a conundrum for you
By "Sp*rs" I meant "sh-t," not the tight-fitting Krappa jersey. By cookie cutter I meant that Nike takes a basic design - looks like curved shoulders are in this season - and imposes it on pretty much all their teams. This shirt looks similar to what's been shown in a couple of threads previewing the new US National team shirt. I'd rather see us ditch Nike as a sponsor and work with a company that treats us as a priority, not an afterthought. I'll start ducking now while Rick prepares his ammo...
I guess I'll be the lone voice in the wilderness...I like the current home kits. [ducking from rotten fruit projectiles] Plus, with those v-necked collars...where is PV4 gonna put that Vick's vapo-rub stuff?
If this is the new shirt, I at least like the fact that they've moved the crest so that the arrow once again points to the heart.
Judging by the fat finanacial package they handed Dein, I'd say that Nike is treating the Gunners damn well. The monies from that long term sponsorship definitely made a dent in the stadium funding problem. And I think it's safe to say that there is/was no other company that could or would have given Arsenal the type of lucrative long term deal that Nike forked over. The money Arsenal gets from Nike is on par with the packages given to ManU and Barca...I'd say that's getting treated like a priority.
This isn't new ground, but, no, it isn't close to what Nike does for ManUre. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but the money's not close. Secondly, go to our website and look for Nike-branded products, then go to their site and do the same, and tell me what you think when you find that Nike has designed and branded about 5 times more items for them than us. Look, we're not at a point where we even *should* be treated the same as a ManUre or Barca, but I'd like to see us partner with a company that wants to grow with us. Apparently, as Rick Breese has pointed out, our concerns about team poverty have been overstated, so we don't need to bow and scrape for every Nike dollar they deign to throw our way. Our goal is pretty clear - we want to join the Big Boys club, and we want to stay there for years to come. We're talking about ManUre, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, and Milan. We're getting the new stadium. We're recruiting and training some of the best young talent in Europe. It's long-term success we're after, and I can't see why an Umbro or adidas wouldn't be interested in aligning themselves with a team like ours, and treating us as their top priority in England.
With either Nike or adidas Arsenal would always be second fiddle (manUre with Nike, Real w/ adidas). I think the real problem is that other companies can't offer us Nike second fiddle money to be their premium club. They're just not financially able to do it. The only company that might come close is Reebok, and I'm not even sure they could do it.
Coach, you got it right. adidas would never make us a top priority. Umbro: they are small potatoes. Reebok (cold shudder down my spine). Our best play is Nike. Now, that being said, I think Arsenal need to get a bit more creative and figure out how to leverage the partnership a bit more.
I'm not liking what I'm seeing. First of all, I'm a big fan of collared shirts, but I've gotten used to the current home shirt. What I really don't like is the centered crest. With the swoosh on the right side, it looks totally unbalanced. Unless they move it back over or at least figure out some way to balance out the sides, I'm not a fan of it. As for the Nike thing, I'm a total Nike schill, so you probably can tell what my feelings are on this. I also don't think that any other apparel manufacturer will do as much for us in terms of money and exposure. Yes, it's less than Man U, but let's face it: we're not as popular as the red menace worldwide. Nike is not just looking at the UK here. They're also looking at the US, Asia, and the rest of the world. Also, as far as the online stores go, more of the blame goes on Arsenal here, because, in the past, they will sell out of Nike products and not restock, so you can't get them directly from the club online. Maybe Nike doesn't have an adequate inventory, but I doubt that.
Arsenal got 130 million pounds over 10 years, but recieved 55 million up front. Had Arsenal decided not to take so much up front, the total value would have been considerably higher. ManU got 300 million pounds over 13 years but they recieved no large upfront payment. Merchandise United generates millions of dollars in merchandising profits. Arsenal? I have no idea, but we all know it's considerably less. Like Coach said, what other company besides Nike has the juice and the dollars to promote Arsenal on a worldwide level? Reebok, Puma, Kappa, Umbro, Le Coq Sportif? I don't think so. Nike has consistanly proven to be the best sport company at marketing itself and it's clients. Closest I can think of is Adidas, and they pale in comparison. And let me say, if you are talking about Nike and cookie cutter jerseys, just take a look at Adidas' offerings or lack thereof. Their jersey designs don't change....ever. 3 stripes and a cloud of dust. And they are ugly, IMHO. Would I like to see Nike pay more attention to Arsenal? Sure! There needs to be more branded Arsenal gear, but that will come with exposure and exposure comes with winning. ManU's merchandise assault was driven by CL success and that glorious whore Beckham. Arsenal doesn't have anybody like that, and they sure don't have any CL trophies. Maybe that will change soon, though. And then I will finally be able to get a decent Arsenal tracksuit.
I was gonna say, can I see it with Vap-O-Rub smeared over the logo? I don't really like it. Reminds me of a rejected Star Trek uniform.
HA, I always thought it was just dribble water. But where I live we have to play indoors from Dec 1st til mid March. I could see how the vapor rub comes in handy. I'm already planning on using it for early spring practice. Probably because the guy in it looks more suited to be tending a stand at a Science Fiction convention, rather than playing on a football pitch. If the kit looks good on Bob, Pat, Fred, Hank... most will buy it. Also, I gotta agree I like the current home ones. I guess a collar could be an option, but that is preference. I think the home kit is very understated and classy. Overall, pretending to be an unbiased fan, I would have to say you guys look the part of 'strong worldwide club' when playing at home.
This is from a fella who was at a focus group at Highbury last night and posted on Arseblog boards "From the end of this season, our deal with Nike will make us a "Category A" client, with the highest level of priority for placing our products at Retailers. When asked "does this mean that we were not high priority before", the answer was that we were when we first signed with Nike, but when they made their dirty deal with the Mancs, that included a clause that made the Mancs priority number 1. Our new Nike deal gives us parity with the Plc. Basically, we are going to make Nike sell our stuff for us, instead of bothering to do it ourselves. I was previously unaware of the fact that this already happens at Man Yoo - all the employees in their Megastore are actually Nike employees."
I completely agree. Just because it's the 21st century doesn't mean that our kit has to look "futuristic". And what's the big deal with changing our get-up so drastically after just a few years? I can see a little tinkering here and there, but we don't need to move the crest to the center when it's been in the normal spot for god-knows how many years. For pete's sake, we just changed our crest a few years back, why the hell must we feel the need to start moving it all over the place? If not a reject Star Trek, than something that looks like it would've appeared in Back to the Future Part 2. A good kit doesn't have to be "cutting edge" to be good.
It's bollocks. It looks like Liverpool's crap jerseys, with the centered crest and the arms; all it's missing is the racing stripe. Get a real design.
I'm betting they don't use the centered crest for the vapo rub issue alone, but this coud be the basic design of the shirt.