Pick the best Quake team

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by dred, Nov 30, 2003.

  1. dred

    dred Member+

    Nov 7, 2000
    Land of Champions
    We all have our emotional favorites, but which was the best Quake team?

    2001 Postseason roadwarriors outscored opponents 13-3 without home-field advantage in any series. Including playoffs, had the second best per-game goal differential in MLS history. Youthful Lagos, Ekelund, and Comeback POTY Dayak.

    2002 15 game home unbeaten run despite US absences of Donovan and Agoos. Best front pairing of Graziani/Donovan and best back-line of Barrett-Agoos-Dayak-Conrad (plus Robinson), with Cannon in goal. Ekelund voted to MLS best XI. Roger Itaya runs away with Supporter's Shield.

    2003 Won division title in a romp, yet cardiac season laced with cliffhangers as team ends up with zero goal differential in non-Dallas games. Put themselves in underdog role in each stage of postseason. But rookies, castoffs and A-leaguers excel beyond wildest imagination and Mulrooney and Donovan have MVP seasons. Onstad voted goalie of the year.

    2004... Best is yet to come. Youth movement will bear fruit as Mullan, Ching, Robinson, Walker, De Rosario, Alvarez and Roner(?) will continue their rapid rise. Injury woes can hardly be worse than in 2003.

    Other Frank Yallop sucks, and besides, he's Canadian. The Dario Brose era was prematurely ended. This Donovan guy is all hype. Danes are smelly. Agoos is a curse. Bring back John Doyle, Krazy George and the Krafts.
     
  2. Naco

    Naco Member

    Aug 5, 2001
    Other: Tayt Ianni Lives!
     
  3. Bajoro

    Bajoro Member+

    Sep 10, 2000
    The Inland Empire
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Youth movement" note should include a certain 21-yr-old, and Todd D.
     
  4. clashcityrocker

    Mar 12, 1999
    In the shadow of RFK
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Whish season was the one where we got Yves? I pick that one.




    What? Oh.

    Okay. I say 2001. Ain't no time like the first time.
     
  5. dred

    dred Member+

    Nov 7, 2000
    Land of Champions
    Re: Re: Pick the best Quake team

    Doh! That changes my vote.
     
  6. Crazy_Quakes_Fan

    Crazy_Quakes_Fan New Member

    Jul 23, 2002
    San Mateo, CA
    I personally think that the line-up that won MLS Cup (sans Waibel, with the addition of Dunivant) would beat both last year's squad and the 2001 championship winner. I say this because our midfield was dominant, even without a consistent left winger. This playing style was perfect for Mulrooney and Ekelund and was the reason why we won the cup. It wasn't Donovan, it wasn't Onstad (although they all helped), it was the high-pressure midfield and the outstanding play of Mulrooney that led me to the conclusion that this year's team is our best team.
     
  7. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp How would Frank Yallop's 2003 San Jose Earthquakes (14-7-9 in the regular season)...

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    &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp ... have matched up against Dragan Popovic's 1983 Golden Bay Earthquakes (20-10-0 in the regular season)?

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    &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp GO EARTHQUAKES!!!


    -G


    P.S. = Is that Dwayne DeRosario in both pictures?
     
  8. UrawaRed

    UrawaRed New Member

    Dec 19, 2000
    Kiyose, Tokyo
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Not to bump on your nostalgia, Goodsie. But, I'd bet on the 2003 Earthquakes to kick the 1983 version. The picture of the boys in red, shows Dwayne's father, Upper-Pwamme.
     
  9. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp Near the end of their intense lightsaber duel:


    Upper-Pwamme: "Has anyone ever told you what happened to your father?"

    Dwayne: "I was told that he was eaten by the Sigi."

    Upper-Pwamme: "No, mon... I am your father!"

    Dwayne: "NOOOOO!!!"


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    &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp GO EARTHQUAKES!!! :cool:


    -G
     
  10. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp Is the quality of play in MLS better now than it was in the NASL back then (I've heard opinions go both ways on this)? :confused:

    &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp GO EARTHQUAKES!!! :cool:


    -G
     
  11. UrawaRed

    UrawaRed New Member

    Dec 19, 2000
    Kiyose, Tokyo
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Who goes both ways?
    Goodsie, I base my estimate on the vast improvement I've seen in this league over the past eight seasons. I think it has been tremendous. For the team 20 years ago to have been better than the 2003 team would mean that the base from which MLS started in 1996 was very bad indeed.
     
  12. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp I agree with you that the 2003 team is better than the 1983 team. However, it seems that there are still some old-timers out there (even older than me, if that's possible :eek: ) that still swear by how much better the NASL was than MLS. :(

    &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp GO EARTHQUAKES!!!


    -G
     
  13. Oh_Teddy_Teddy

    Apr 7, 2003
    Mountain View, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Remember that the NASL was only required to play 3 Americans, so 8 imports could be on the field at one time! This meant a different talent pool was in use so it is apples and oranges to compare to MLS.

    A former NASK Quakes player recently told me that he thought the 1983 team was slightly better talent wise than the 2001 Quakes but that Franks coaching was vastly superior to "Pops".

    The talent level was high up front on the old team (Goosens, Zungel, Terlecki, Ingram) but seemed weaker at the back, and I believe "Big" Bill Irwin's goals against avg. was about 1.65 in 1983.

    Goodsie, Spartacus?
     
  14. Toffees_rule

    Toffees_rule New Member

    Feb 11, 2000
    SFSU
    2002 without a doubt probably was the best team in terms of talent, and had there not been the wc to deal with, then i think graz and donovan would have gelled better and really look dangerous.
     
  15. Bajoro

    Bajoro Member+

    Sep 10, 2000
    The Inland Empire
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great point, T_R. And it's exactly why talk of who's "better" hardly matters, as in, who's better, the Quakes or the Fire? I'll take Cup victories over accolades.
     
  16. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2003

    Well, here are my thoughts:

    - 2001 Team played the best overall from the middle to the end of the season.

    - 2002 Team had the most talent.

    - 2003 Team wins the division and has the best regular season record. All players on the roster contribute to the sucess of the team.

    - Other. It's very hard to compare the NASL Quakes to the MLS Quakes. Different era's. However, the pressure the MLS Quakes bring on the defensive end could not have been handled by most NASL teams (except maybe soe of the Cosmos teams).

    Ok, I just voted for the 2003 team in the pol, but now, I would have to say the 2002 Team. Doh! With the WC and the injuries to Agoos, Dayak, amd Mulrooney, it just wasn't meant to be...
     
  17. We Were Cut

    We Were Cut Member

    Sep 9, 2000
    Woodland, CA
    2003. I vaguely remember the old school Quakes so I can't comment.

    But the difference is Landon. He's much more dangerous now than last year or the year before.

    2002 was talented, but Graziani was a jerk and detractd from the team atmosphere. And the team disappeared after Mulrooney broke his ankle; 2003 the players kept marching on despite all the injuries. 2001 was magic, but offensively not as good as 2003.
     
  18. mholstege

    mholstege New Member

    Nov 24, 2003
    Cupertino
    I gotta go with 2003. The question is what was the best _team_. Some of the teamwork and coordination this year, particularly in the playoff games was just too scary good. Little strings of quick one touch passes slicing through the defenses. Chills. 2002 was too fragmented by WC and all. 2001 was pure fun, but a lot of time Landon was playing about two pages ahead of his teammates and it didn't mesh as well.

    //Mary
     
  19. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp I think you're right, although my old age could be playing tricks on me. :(

    &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp GO EARTHQUAKES!!! :cool:


    -G
     
  20. TORPEDO

    TORPEDO Member

    Sep 19, 1999
    Za nakryityim stolom
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    IMHO all time Quash/Clakes team :

    Cannon

    Martin Dayak Doyle Agoos

    Bravo Ekelund Mullrooney Espinoza

    Donovan Wynalda



    IMHO all crap Quash/Clakes team

    Kramer

    Draguicevich Emenalo Yanni Wright

    Ziko Urbanyi Lazzizi Onalfo

    Guzman Uribe


    Cheerio.
     
  21. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Your probably going with the best players, but I prefer to play them in their position. Bravo was a forward, not a right midfielder and I believe Espinoza played forward. Lewis should be on the left and Mullan on the right. Here would be my picks for the best:

    Cannon

    Conrad Dayak Doyle Agoos

    Mullan Ekelund Mullrooney Lewis

    Donovan Cerritos

    For the crap team (and you did a good job), I try not to remember a lot of those players, but here goes:

    "Goal Post" Kiner

    Martin Draguicevich Clark Yanni

    Ziko Urbanyi Lazzizi Tinsley

    Karapetyan Uribe
     
  22. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp No George Best, Paul Child or Steve Zungul? :(

    &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp You probably mean Liner. ;)


    &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp GO EARTHQUAKES!!!


    -G
     
  23. living_ded_boy

    living_ded_boy New Member

    May 24, 2001
    Pleasanton, Ca
    You italicized "best".....you should have italicized "team".

    I think everyone agrees, that 2002 was the most individually talented "roster". They didn't play like a team.

    2001 was the "best" team.

    2003 was the "hardest working" team

    2004 won't even make the playoffs. :( (hey, my negative attitude this season is what won the MLS Cup 2003, i'm stickin with what got us there) :D
     
  24. mike mcclellan

    mike mcclellan New Member

    Sep 19, 2002
    San Jose
    Growing up watching the old school Quakes, I idolized them. But, the majority of them (and every other NASL player not on the Cosmos) couldn't even get a try-out with this league. IMHO.

    The biggest thing is the depth of talent, across the board. Where the NASL was exciting, and had some talented players, there were some huge holes in the talent pool.

    MLS plays at a much higher level, as evidenced by the number of our players who are making an impact at the international level.
     

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