Philipakos Free To Look At Mls

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  1. golazo68

    golazo68 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    I'm embarrased to share the same moniker with you. You are being very unfair to Jay. You have no clue what a leaky sivve Watford midfield is defensively.
     
  2. Der Stich

    Der Stich Member+

    May 3, 2005
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire

    Philipakos is a right-sided attacking midfielder.
     
  3. Khan

    Khan Member+

    Mar 16, 2000
    On the road
    In Chicago, we all really wanted for Thorrington to be a good player, but he ended up being injured too often to prove anything. [My opinion is that Chicago hasn't had a strength & conditioning coach since 2K4, which has contributed to many players being injured moreso than they should. But that's another thread.]

    Looking around in MLS, exactly WHO is a competent wide-sided player? Honestly: Look at the steaming piles of shyte that Bradley had to use as wide-sided substitutes v. Mexico. [Gros and Carroll?] There REALLY aren't very many wide-sided players that can play box-to-box, complete a pass, and cross the ball effectively in MLS.

    In a league where Ronnie O'Brien is a class player at his position, I'd give Philipakos a little more slack. And this is coming from a fan who had to watch Thorrington injure himself over and over, and Nate Jaqua get burnt to a crisp by Joey F********ing Franchino in the playoffs.

    BTW, as of this writing, who is your team's RMF? Schopp? For everything you've posted WRT "failed yanks abroad," I'd take a flyer on Philipakos:

    He's young, a wide-sided MF, and a US citizen. Exactly what's not to like?
     
  4. PALE568

    PALE568 Member

    Jun 5, 2003
    mind your own.
    Well, no one's really seen him play. I am a wide-sided MF, a USC & I used to be young. And I ain't worth shit to Metro.

    Tell you the truth, though, I'm interested in this kid. He did enough in Greece to pique my interest, if nothing else. Trouble is - he has to understand that if he's coming here, he's (initially) making a 5-figure salary. Period. I wonder what his expectations are coming in re: salary. That's one thing I'm concerned about.

    But, yeah, if his bro can be believed, I'll gladly take the hometown kid with some attacking flair.
     
  5. USAfutbol

    USAfutbol New Member

    Jan 7, 2006
    Firstly, to the people that are worried about him being offered a contract because he has Euro qualifications, I don't think he'll just be handed a contract without a trial... at least it would be strange and not normal if he was brought in this way given that nobody at RB has seen him play recently.

    Secondly, it is silly to blindly state that an American player was sending a bad message about MLS by coming back after things in Europe didn't materialize. It happens in every domestic league everywhere because said player is a professional in his trade and it is thusly easier to employ in his home country where work permits and foreign regulations don't limit opportunities. It happens everywhere.

    Bottom line, there are Euro-snobs and MLS-snobs, both are annoying. There's a happy middle ground. That middle ground here seems to me that RB fans should be pleased you may have the first chance to look at this kid in training and the technical staff can judge if he's good enough to be MLS quality.
     
  6. crewfighter

    crewfighter New Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    Claddagh's Roof
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ryan Coiner was a flop, but I disagree that Jacob Thomas was. He played pretty well for the Crew last year.
     
  7. dub77

    dub77 New Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    in denial
    If we can acquire his rights for cheap, why shouldn’t we? My question is how are making all these roster moves without allocations or do we even need allocations? It seems like we are doing all this without regard to the rules or are we just ignoring the rules or are there rules for what we are doing or does it matter? What rules am I talking about, when would they apply, or do they even apply in any of these cases?:confused: As long as we win and our rivals get pissed I’ll be happy.
     
  8. jason1551

    jason1551 Member+

    Apr 9, 2003
    Columbus, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    He hasn't played for the US on any level, so he can be acquired via a discovery claim. There is no need for an allocation, unless NY wants to offset some of his salary.

    The bigger question I have is whether NY has the funds (and roster space) to get him, Delgado, Eski, and, most recently Rimando. That's at least $500K in salary, and almost a fourth of NY's roster spots.
     
  9. Rooney20

    Rooney20 Member+

    Jan 8, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Delgado and Eski are not even concrete yet.
     
  10. Rommul

    Rommul Member

    Aug 26, 2003
    NYC
    Yep

    *Sigh* yes.

    At least we are past the point where 3 Bund players are seen as upgrades.

    Then again the history of foreign reserve league players coming to MLS and instantly becoming top performers could indicate that these players are worth signing.

    I don't get the tail between the legs comment though.
     

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