Philadelphia Union - 2019 Roster

Discussion in 'Philadelphia Union' started by Zman Gunner, Jan 25, 2019.

  1. Billy Zabka

    Billy Zabka Member+

    May 4, 2006
    RoFo, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Derrick Jones loaned (2019)/traded (2020) to Nashville for $175K GAM and a 20% sell-on clause

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  2. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    seems like a waste.. feel like it could come back and bite us in the ass, but the reality is the Union didn't like him, didn't have plans for him, and didn't want to use him, so it's a good thing they got something back for him.
     
  3. Cherry Hill SOB

    Cherry Hill SOB Member+

    Aug 30, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Young, athletic player with MLS experience for some dunny money for an expansion team. Get him in this year as part of a core. Seems like a reasonable deal for Nashville.

    As for the Union it seems like they had a fair amount of time to evaluate him. Obviously thought he had potential but didn't pan out and Ernst seems like a pretty fair judge of talent so far. Get a little something for the trade but tack on the sell on clause in case a change of environment makes a big difference in his growth. For me, seems like a good call for the Union.
     
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  4. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So other than Ilsinho, what other Stewart signings are still with the club?
     
  5. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So I wonder what Ernst is going to do with that $1.25 mil in cap space he just cleared up. And let's not forget the $600k in Garber Bucks. And all with players that are depth pieces at best.
     
  6. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Sort of reminds me of the Okugo situation. Talented player, coaches didnt rate him, got a shot with an expansion side. Hopefully it works out better for him.
     
  7. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have:

    Haris
    Fafa
    Jack Elliot
    Cory Burke
    Bedoya (technically during the ES era, although the wheels were in motion before ES arrived)

    There were also several academy players called up during his tenure of you want you count those:

    Mark McKenzie
    Trusty
    Mbaizo
    Real
    Fontana
     
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  8. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Accam may have been making $1.25M in salary, but of that only roughly $550K counted against the budget.
     
  9. Tyr

    Tyr Member+

    Nov 7, 2009
    Lawrenceville
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mbaizo wasn't an academy guy. Technically, Ngalina is an Earnie guy. He just signed with Steel first.
     
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  10. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Union will extend Monteiro’s loan for year, full transfer not complete

    From the article:

    $3,000,000+? A team still owned by Jay Sugarman? Pffft. Right.

    I'll just enjoy him while I can for the rest of the year.
     
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  11. buzzkiller23

    buzzkiller23 Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Glenolden, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  12. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    It's not crazy to think they might pay that kind of money. It's not a ton in the current environment, and Sugarman has shown signs that he's willing to invest more in the club (Fabian, Santos, the initial and current Monteiro payments). I wouldn't bet on it, but it's not outside the realm of possibility.
     
  13. djramone

    djramone Member+

    Jan 14, 2006
    Pennsylvania
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seems like his salary and desire to stay in MLS are bigger hurdles than the transfer fee.

    Metz just got promoted, so if he didn't fit their lineup in Ligue 2, can't see him doing in in Ligue 1. Hopefully they are aware of the sunk cost fallacy.
     
  14. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's 3.5Xs more than they have ever paid ever.
     
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  15. Tyr

    Tyr Member+

    Nov 7, 2009
    Lawrenceville
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On the potentially positive side, it's pretty easy to point towards his production here to convince Sugarman to sign him. Not that he will actually splash the cash.
     
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  16. buzzkiller23

    buzzkiller23 Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Glenolden, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If I'm reading this right, it looks like loans are actually part of their strategy now. So maybe they'll just let Monteiro walk and rent someone else.


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  17. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oddly enough, I still have this image that I made in 2015 saved on my PC.

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  18. buzzkiller23

    buzzkiller23 Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Glenolden, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Please tweet this out at some point. I'm dying.
     
  19. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll wait until the next loan gets announced ... which probably won't be a long wait.
     
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  20. drewuke

    drewuke Member+

    Jul 19, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    If we can consistently get guys like Dockal and Monteiro. I don't mind being a rent-a-center.
     
  21. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Although it sucks to fall in love over and over again with players who are going to take off again (Barnetta, Nogs, Valdes 1.0, Dockal, Monteiro, etc, etc, etc)
     
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  22. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This, unfortunately, is the reality of sports fandom in the 21st century. Guys like Derek Jeter and Steve Gerrard who spend their entire careers with one team are going to become a relic of a bygone era.
     
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  23. drewuke

    drewuke Member+

    Jul 19, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Uh huh?

    The two you listed are generational icons, and the guys who play for the Union have obviously jumped around because their quality fits the Union level, hence journeymen, loans, and cheap 'steals' who didn't fit in at their old place. We can't afford great, so we get good players who travel the world trying to restart/jumpstart their flawed career. It's not a sign of the times, it's the sign of an relatively average 10 year old team in a 25 year old league.

    Off-topic, but baseball free agency is dying. Expect to see a lot more players staying with one team their whole career.
     
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  24. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Point taken. I just listed the two first guys that popped into my head who were loved by their fans and that stayed with one team their entire career.

    I meant that sports fans in general should probably give up on the idea that their favorite players will be with their club their whole careers, regardless of whether they're fans of 'have' teams like Manchester United/New York Yankees, or 'have nots' like the Oakland A's/Philadelphia Union.
     
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  25. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Historians will talk about The Big Three: Jeter, Gerrard and Gaddis.
     

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