PGE Park plan delayed for a third time

Portland hater!

(Sorry, figured I'd get that out of the way in a hurry on this thread)

 

Talks continue on converting PGE Park for soccer play
OregonLive.com

 

I don't know about that. Why is it fair to push Portland back on the chance that it's stadium remodel will be delayed a bit when we have teams like San Jose and Kansas City both of which are playing in sub-11,000 capacity stadiums that aren't even designated solely for soccer.

Bottomline is that Portland MLS will be the next best thing to happen to MLS considering the huge rivalry between Seattle and Portland. I doubt MLS is willing to back down over some minor stadium issues that can probably be solved before the beginning of the 2011 season even with these new delays.

 

Why are they fighting him so hard? Have they not seen what the Sounders have done for Seattle? Portland has one major sports team and they're killing their chances for another one. A Portland MLS franchise has so much damn potential its awful to see the elected officials fight it so hard. I can't imagine the frustration that MLS fans in Portland feel.

 

AFAIK, the Sounders haven't been squeezing the city of Seattle for public money.

 

WRONG!! the next best thing to happen to MLS will be the philadelphia franchise, followed by the opening of the new RBNY stadium in 2010;

after that, the next best thing will be the Triangle rivalry of vancouver, seattle and portland in 2011

followed by the successful # 19 franchise of montreal in 2012

MLS will keep on getting more and more successes and good news stories IMO, at least until the # 20 franchise is awarded-- and if it goes to beckham, then that wil be the next best news for MLS, especially from a world-attention point-of-view

as long as MLS does the player bargaining in a constructive, positive manner, then there is lots of good news coming

and if KC, SJ and houston get their stadiums going by 2012-2013, then... u get the picture!! (who the heck knows about DC and NE!!)

 

Portland needs to get its act together. This PNW thing will blow away anything else in the MLS. Not getting it done is stupid for MLS, Portland, and US soccer.

 

wow

 

bright posts thread on bigsoccer about the portland stadium, bigsoccer posters who don't otherwise follow the situation freak out for a couple pages, all the portland people don't freak out because they know better.

this is getting done. no worries.

 

oh hey BROSUF wanna turn this into a portland-seattle rivalry thread?!?!?

i BET I KNOWWW MORE ABOUT SOCCOR THAN YOU N00b

 

The Sounders didn't make their stadium.

 

Well, no. But Paul Allen sure did.

 

Nobody is hijacking anything here rasta.

You'd also know that I am FULLY behind Portland 2011-- intro to this league. check into it

 

Hey bright can you provide an update on Vancouver? Word is they are playing at a temporary stadium on a cricket ground. I suppose they should be moved back to 2012 too, right?

I'm dying for your take on another teams stadium negotiations.

 

Rule #10,973 of political life: If you run a government and are in a negotiation with a private party involving your money, and you cut off negotiations too soon, you look like you caved. Therefore, you may as well have caved.

The city has incentive to stall. They want to look good, they want to look like they won even more from Merritt Paulson.

I refer back to the end of the task force crunched up against the vote and the eventual award. An end date has been picked for this process. Count on rubbing up right against it.

 

They aren't playing on a cricket ground but they will be playing a few games (if not the entire season depending on overruns on the new roof) at a temporary stadium. Location as yet unknown but more than likely at the old Empire Stadium site where the Whitecaps used to play before moving to BC Place. There are currently 8 bids for the temp stadium project. Here is the RFP for the temp stadium...


[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]BC Pavilion Corporation

Temporary Stadium Grandstand Seating


Pavco, the crown corporation responsible for BC Place, is seeking proposals for the
construction of temporary grandstands to facilitate the formation of a stadium suitable for
the playing of Canadian football or soccer.

Specific requirements are:

- Capacity of 30,000 to 32,000 with at least 75% of the seats covered

- Individual and seating preferred (to at least 85% of capacity)

- Other facilities required include:

- 24 private boxes
- Media facilities (press box)
- Broadcast boxes

The location in the Greater Vancouver area is to be determined.

Facilities which may be included in the proposal or which may be provided under other
contracts include:

- Washrooms
- Concessions
- Stadium lighting
- Scoreboards and video boards
- Sound

The proposal must be priced by item i.e. seating, roof, lighting, etc.


[/FONT]RFP closes Nov 20th 2009
Winner announced Dec 5th 2009
Work complete June 15th, 2010

 

Whose primary tenant is an NFL team.

 

Put grass in too, and maybe the Whitecaps should just play in that stadium. Sounds not too far off from some of the SSS other teams have.

Re: Portland: I think it's a case of right place, wrong owner. If I were Garber I'd quietly look for another owner (a la Roth) who might want to start up in PDX. the last thing MLS needs is yet another team playing in a minor-league baseball stadium indefinitely.

 

Do you have any idea what you are talking about, the parties involved, or the situation at hand?

I don't think you do.

 

While this is interesting, I really wanted Bright's opinion since he considers himself the formost expert on the stadium negotiations happinging in cities he doesn't live in.