Peru vs New Zealand Repechaje Rusia 2018 (R)

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  1. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
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    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    el punto es que se han enfrentado a mejores jugadores que Los 3 cracks kiwis

    y casi todos nuestros rivales tienen mejores jugadores que nosotros (ejemplo Chile...)

    Peru tiene que aprender en 3 dias en como jugar como favorito
     
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  2. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
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    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    no se como explicar su euforia

    muchos basurean a Peru como equipo top 10 despues del partido porque no pudieron romper la defensa kiwi
     
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  3. passat1976

    passat1976 Member+

    Oct 19, 2007
    USA
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Parkearon el bus en el arco sin una pizca de verguenza.. Nos ratonearon feo los troncos!... Las imagenes no mienten.. No supimos romper ese cerrojo defensivo... Atacabamos con 5 y marcaban 10 kiwis..

     
  4. passat1976

    passat1976 Member+

    Oct 19, 2007
    USA
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Los kiwis llegaron hace una hora a Lima a la medianoche... Se comieron un viaje de 24 horas, un dia.. No pudieron pagar el charter en Argentina y tuvieron que esperar vuelo comercial a Lima.

     
  5. cesar Verde

    cesar Verde Member+

    Jan 30, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    #255 cesar Verde, Nov 13, 2017
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2017
    Justamente lo que no se entiende es eso, les trauma el gol de visitante pero a la vez piden atacar con 8 ( incluyendo a los laterales y contencion),

    se puede hacer en determinado momento del partido pero hacerlo en todo el partido seria muy arriesgado.
     
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  6. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
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    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    si Peru se tira atras no hay manera que nz mete gol....y nosotros tenemos con que contragolpear....

    ;)
     
  7. cesar Verde

    cesar Verde Member+

    Jan 30, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    #257 cesar Verde, Nov 13, 2017
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2017
    En parte eso es lo que falto en NZ, nuestros centrales debieron tocarla un poco mas par invitar a salir un poco mas a ellos.

    Soy enemigo del toquesito intrascendente en la media cancha pero este tipo de partidos si lo a merita, si hay que tocarla entre los centrales y la primera linea de contención en varias oportunidades antes de la profundizacion hay que hacerlo y sin sonrojarnos.
     
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  8. ManusXavi

    ManusXavi Member

    Oct 10, 2013
    Dunedin, New Zealand
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    New Zealand
    Peru vs New Zealand

    I expect New Zealand to play like a 4-2-1-3 and 3-3-1-3.
    All you need to know is that Thomas + 3 others will be up the field on attack at all times.
    McGlinchey and Lewis form the second line of defense and have to play well due to the attacking needs of New Zealand. New Zealand can not afford to have 7/10 men on defense because New Zealand need to score.
    Ryan Thomas must have support on attack to be his best.
    Thomas is New Zealands Xavi - The Playmaker (Our best player)
    All you need to do is make a run and he will find you with a pass. On the other hand you have become decoy and Thomas now has space and time I need to take another option such as another pass or shooting for goal from close range. Thomas ran a lot of Kilometers the other day. This can not happen again on Thursday. New Zealand must trust that to 6 man defense will be good enough. Thomas must stay forward
    New Zealand must remain with 3 men up the field on attack with Thomas. Peru will get Nervous the more New Zealand attacks.

    Prediction: Peru 1-2 New Zealand - The pressure on themselves is too much for Peru. Thomas and New Zealand will have a field day against Peru's defense
     
  9. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
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    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    if NZ comes out to play they will leave gaps and that is exactly what our attackers thrive on

    If anything it suits Peru to be attacked

    the higher nz push up and the larger the distance between mids and defence the more Peru will thrive
     
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  10. ManusXavi

    ManusXavi Member

    Oct 10, 2013
    Dunedin, New Zealand
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    New Zealand
    Sending an extra man up field will make Peru nervous, New Zealand will still have enough men back.
    Peru's defence is not better than what our attackers have faced.
    With Peru going up on attack, New Zealand will like their chances with scoring goals.
     
  11. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
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    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    hate to break this to you but Peru have faced much much better players and teams in the last 18 games.

    NZ showed how much they fancied themselves in an open game by playing 9 men behind the ball and very close to their area while playing at home

    They will do the same again for 80 minutes and hope they are still alive and then maybe they will come out and play

    Hudson knows that his team is inferior and is not silly enough to commit too many players too early. He has to play with the clock he has that advantage. would not surprise me if his master plan is to play for pks
     
  12. locotl

    locotl Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    florida
    I'm glad you're confident and think that Peru's defense is not better than Fiji .... on the other hand we have played against world class forwards this year like Cavani, Suarez, Falcao, Messi, Neymar, Sanchez, etc. And you think that made Peru's defense "nervous"....
    What will make Peru nervous is the pressure of not being able to score at the beginning of the match.
    Being at home it should be an advantage for Peru apart from being much more rested for this game.
     
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  13. Navimaster

    Navimaster Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    Elizabeth, NJ
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
  14. rick100

    rick100 Member+

    Jun 4, 2009
    Canada
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    I dont think you quite understand the level of pressure southamerican qualifiers have. Peru is used to pressure in the other hand new Zealand is used to winning all their game in their qualifiers. I highly doubt new zealand is used to hostile crowds,as their best players play in england where the crowds are quite and behave. Their is pressure on Peru , sure , but they have 90 minutes, plus another 30 minutes extra time to win the game.

    Peruvian defenders have dealt with players like neymar, messi , suarez, falcoa , etc ,etc ,etc. I highly doubt Wood would scare any of them.
     
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  15. julinho97

    julinho97 Member+

    Jan 17, 2009
    Lima, Peru
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Argentina, Colombia, Uruguay, etc. didn't score 2 goals and you think NZ will score 2? can i please heave your dealers phone number?
     
  16. cesar Verde

    cesar Verde Member+

    Jan 30, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    I would like your team to have your same audacity.
    is what we need in Peru.
     
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  17. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
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    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    Peru would probably prefer that NZ come out and play
     
  18. Maurice Dollars

    Maurice Dollars ¡Arriba Perú, carajo!

    Jan 11, 2011
    Lima, Perú
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Definitely, but they wouldn't dare. If they were celebrating a draw at home, there's no way they don't come out and park the bus this Wednesday.

    Necesitamos un gol tempranero, como Croacia contra Grecia. Creo que Grecia salió con 6 defensores, pero todo se fue al tacho cuando Croacia anotó dos goles. Y eso que eso fue en la ida, estoy seguro que Grecia se hubiera ido feliz con un 1-0 en contra; este partido es la vuelta y Nueva Zelanda no puede perder. Un gol y se abre el partido y podemos hacer nuestro juego. A presionar desde el arranque!
     
  19. julinho97

    julinho97 Member+

    Jan 17, 2009
    Lima, Peru
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    al sistema ratonero le metes 1 gol y ahí queda, se desmorona. Yo pienso que podemos ganar cómodamente siempre y cuando salgamos a matarlos y consigamos el gol rápido.
    Si nos vamos al descanso sin gol, se nos viene la noche. Que falta que nos hace Guerrero por la re puta madre..
     
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  20. passat1976

    passat1976 Member+

    Oct 19, 2007
    USA
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru


    Ese Farfan con su polo Walon!... El colocho de Bein Sports siempre ha sido claro y realista... Le doy toda la razon... Somos ricos tecnicamente pero no somos capaces de patear al arco, no le hacemos gol a nadie.. Sorprende a muchos el rendimiento bajito de Cueva, Farfan y Carrillo...

    Le sorprende que Peru no le haya podido hacer gol a una Nueva Zelanda que como equipo es pobre, ingenuo, inocente, al que no le sobra absolutamente nada.
     
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  21. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
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    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    no es tan facil meter gol a equipos que se tiran atras con tanta gente

    si tenemos que disparar de lejos. Tenemos jugadores que tienen con que hacer dano de lejos pero tienen que creerselas

    eso si...si Carrillo juega hasta Las webas otra vez lo saco al mediotiempo
     
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  22. BRONCONOSE

    BRONCONOSE Member

    Dec 3, 2007
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Creo que se basan en como les a ido los ultimos partidos a Nueva Zelanda, lo que la gente no llega a entender es que todo lo que han jugado es de visita o en campo neutral. Peru puede hacer esto pero no es que sea cualquier cosa meterle gol a una Nueva Zelanda en casa que se tira atras.
     
  23. locotl

    locotl Member+

    Mar 28, 2005
    florida
    @condor11 esa cancha en Wellington era grass artificial (turf) no?
     
  24. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    es gras natural ahi se juega rugby tambien
     
  25. rick100

    rick100 Member+

    Jun 4, 2009
    Canada
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    es dificil hacerle un gol a un equipo que se tira todo para atras y tampoco es que nueva zelanda tenga cojo de defensa. Su central juega en la premier league. Tambien es frustrante que apenas recuperan balon la tiran con todo para arriba, osea nisiquiera tratan entre ellos pasar el balon para salir limpio. Lo que esto significa es siempre van a estar los 6 parados atras , porque sus laterales no salen , sus medios se quedan abajo

    Nueva zelanda es uno de esos equipos que si les metes uno , les metes 3 porque empiezan a salir y atras es un parque de diversion

    Lo que si es que no hay que confiarze mucho , mudo y ramos , atras no pueden fallar un pase o dejar muy libre a wood. Tiros libres y corners tmb hay que estar atentos. Estos kiwis meten centro al area desde el medio campo , desde un lateral. Son basicamente el anti futbol .

    Otra alternativa creo es buscar un tiro libre cerca del area, jugarles sucio asi como ellos juegan. Un gol de tiro libre para que se abran atras. Cualquier contacto al suelo
     

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