No, it is actually very logical. I never completely dismissed. But what you fail to seemingly acknowledge is that Messi operates with a specific style in a specific system. It's the nature of the player. Can you imagine Messi achieving the same number of goals by occupying the center backs in the box? He cannot, his goal productivity would plummet. His profile as a player is such that he has a different phenotype of play. He has better quality in his pass than those players, that is unmistakable - but those players are also superior as target men for example. And no, it is not illogical, this means Messi is responsible for more turnovers and is therefore likely implicated in offering more dangerous situations to the opposing team - especially when you see he is the player that is most dribbled against. That is to highlight the negative impact of a forward player participating as much in the passing game. Very likely, if the other players played like Messi they would have more turnovers - but they don't so the point is not relevant. Furthermore, their turnovers are in safer areas of the pitch. Messi is dispossessed in more dangerous areas. I am not biased against Messi - in fact, I've praised him. What I have done is dismantled the outrageous myths some of his fanboys perpetrate.