So if Messi won WC2010 and Copa 2011 and he lost WC22 and Copa 21 in quarter finals, he would have a much better international career? If your successes in life come earlier they are worth more than latter? To call them NT failures is incredibly shallow because Messi, individually, has one "bad" tournament for Argentina in his entire career and that is 2019 Copa. People who thought Messi's international career was underwhelming before Copa 21 and WC 22 are morons. Does people think Robben had had an underwhelming international career? Does Modrić have underwhelming international career? No, becuase It's just standards Messi was up against his whole career. Standards that are not grounded in common sense, but the goat fairytales that one player can win match and whole tournament. Messi won WC22 because Argentina was great, as a team, as a whole and with a bit misfortune, the same team, the same Messi wouldn't have won it and then Messi's international career would remain underwhelming? You are completely wrapped up in outcome bias. If a player X wins, he has played well, if he doesn't he didn't and he disappeared. Add to that standards that "the goat" has to perform every game you get complete shit show. Maradona scored 34 goals in 91 games for Argentina and you don't think that he disappered in many important games? He did but you are not aware of them. Does anyone care that Maradona didn't win 1982 WC during his prime? Time erases bad performances and what you are left with is only moments of greatness. You are too close to Messi's career because he is still an active player and you are still aware of bad performances because they just recently happened. Wait 30 years and you will realize what Messi has achieved on the international level. What will be left are only moments of greatness, which, as it is pointed out, there are a lot. Probably more than anyone else in history.