Perfetto, the Return of Carletto! - Benvenuto Carlo Ancelotti

Ha, good question, the goalposts will up sticks and move to a new location to suit the experts' view at some point no doubt, Carlo won every single title that Madrid could possibly win in his time with us, pity it was all a fluke, Farca fans DNA......

 

Depends on how Liverpool plays. These dunks might be fun for people who just look at the league table and historical records, but there are some of us that actually watch the game and not just count titles at the end of each year.

So? What does that even mean lol. That there should be no new coaches?

 

Working for CBF is a form of retirement as well.

 

The stats are good for putting in writing or confirming what happened on the field but I wouldn't expect a coach as experienced as Carlo to need to anything other than his two eyes to see the team is losing headers or not keeping possession or whatever.

People that use analytics are the guys who can't coach and don't understand what's happening on the field just using their eyes and ears, they need AI to tell them what to do.

 

But you cannot squeeze out those titles. They are already won. A coach in any sport is about winning.

 

I kind of agree with this.

Analytics works incredibly well in baseball but there are too many variables in free flowing sports like Basketball and Football for it to be taken entirely as gospel. It's incredibly useful in terms of scouting and helping out with a general understanding but I do agree with you that it's more useful for people that can't identify strengths and weaknesses on their own.

 

Daryl Morey.

 

🚨🗣️ Xabi Alonso on his future team: “What works here [Leverkusen] might not work elsewhere.” pic.twitter.com/xuWAorpvhq

— Madrid Xtra (@MadridXtra) May 17, 2025

Xabi Alonso on his future team: “What works here [Leverkusen] might not work elsewhere.”

I'm sad to see Carlo go out the way he has, but I'm really excited for Xabi ball.

 

Shocker

Soon the cries to fire Xabi will grow until theor rallying point (as usual every season by the same people and media) this October/November.

People have been told this man is another Carlo and Zidane; he is going to be practical and set up his team depending on the what he believes they can do to get results... he isn't a system guy that forces every team regardless of the players to fit his "big brain tactics" with no alternative.

 

Him saying that made me extremely comfortable with him becoming our new manager. I think he'll do well. He's the ideal successor to Carlo and Zidane.

The club got it right!

 

Don't you dare mention that name!

 

I sincerely hope he gets two full seasons without any interference. If he doesn't win anything at the end of the second one, time to ask questions - so not fire him - but even that depending on how the performance trend looks.

 

Sounds like he's already making excuses.

"I did exactly the same thing at Madrid as I did at Leverkusen. I haven't changed but things didn't workout here the same way for some reason."

 

I think its 1 and a half years. As you said, if he wins nothing the first season and then in December 2026 the team is not first on the table, there will be calls to fire him then. But it would be insane to replace him with someone else in the middle of the season. Id allow him to finish the season and stay even if trophiless for two years. But if its December 2027 and its still the same story...

 

I don't know the last couple of times the club did this it yielded results.

Everyone knows about the 15/17 season (aka the last time Flo has a brilliant idea about firing Carlo and hiring a Spanish coach) but when Solari took over for Lopetegui the team had dropped to 9th in the table, but went on a magnificent run and played themselves back into contention for titles. Unfortunately Solari also got fired and the 3rd manager wasn't any better losing 2 and drawing 2 games his first full month on the job.

 

There has not been anything from the club.

 

I think there were rumors that the club are upset at how Brazil handled things and announced Carlo's departure hastily. Their president is dodgy and in court for some criminal stuff, so he rushed the news to distract from his own court case. Usually there is an agreement to release these kinds of statements simultaneously by both parties. CBF and it's presi didnt wanna wait.

Florentino and the board probably did not take that well. But I certainly hope they aren't taking it out on Ancelotti.

 

2 trophyless years is normal for most clubs. It's the exception for Real Madrid because the demand are so high. Florentino and the succession of managers really spoiled us as a fan base.

 

Xabi would have to be a disaster to only have 1 year even if we go trophyless.

2 yrs is probably the limit.

But I don't foresee this team going trophyless.

 

Well this team has a limitation. It cannot defend a league title. Add to that it cannot possibly sustain the Champions League successes of the last decade, and rarely cares about the domestic cup. So there will be down periods.

But it matters how we lose, not how we win. If Madrid wins 4 games in a row needing remontadas, extra time, penalties and dodgy referee decisions to win the UCL, the fans will not care.

If Madrid loses 4 clasicos in humiliating fashion, with the opposition outrunning your team by 7-8 miles, and gets defeated by any team with a semi-decent strategy, it is unacceptable. Consequences are guaranteed, no matter the circumstances. It is the most demanding football club in the world, and it's at the summit for a reason.

Even Don Carlo acknowledged that. This is a results based football club. Winning ugly/pretty is all the same, as long as we Win.