Perfetto, the Return of Carletto! - Benvenuto Carlo Ancelotti

Carlo better smack Jude at the back of the head and tell him to get that shoulder surgery ASAP. That will be his final gift to the fans as manager.

 

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He is going out as a gentleman. I am sorry for him and how the club handled this season. He didn't deserve that.

 

Lol..

He asked the JAS and Florentino and they wouldn't budge. They sent this man out there to bomb then distanced themselves when the fallout happened.

They are more culpable than the manager or the players. They knew we had significant deficiencies and wouldn't even pay for some loans to help.

 

Pretty shocking that we didn't even more for a couple of loans, which would have massively helped from January onwards.

 

I think they wanted him out, but the only way to do that without looking like the villains was by setting up the team to fail (ie. refuse to upgrade the defense including 0 loans). After seeing Xabi prove himself at Bayer last season, they already knew they wanted him to lead the next major phase of Real Madrid project (the rumors were already there).

Hence they would set up Carlo to fail; he'd leave by mutual consent and as a result it would be a win-win for everyone involved.

This is just my humble opinion.

 

This theory is so stupid. As if Carlo wouldn't act just they way he is now if he was asked to leave one year earlier.

 

It's a moronic theory. They could easily tell him they want to transition to youngest version of the CarloTree (Xabi) and move him to a higher up role. This would open the door for him to go to Brazil (a supposed dream of his) and comeback to Madrid.

Now all that is still gonna happen but did we have to blow the remaining of the season and put our most successful manager through shit for it?

 

Maybe the higher ups got p!sse3d at Carlo when rumours of the Brazil job started swirling around.

 

Im sorry but people get too hung up on Carlo's grace and classiness. Yes thats great and we all love him for that, but its just a bonus, appointing or keeping a coach because hes a gentleman is like voting for Trump to be president because he makes you laugh. If Carlo was an ambassador for the club thats more than enough, but it does not excuse his failings as a coach by far.

 

I mean you overlook his successes as a coach…

 

I am not looking at his resume which is very long, I am looking at how he sets up the team in the present and implements his ideas in practice. If the decision about him being the coach is based just on his successes as a coach, he might as well stay at the helm until his death but thats not how it works.

 

Lol, so your idea is not to use his "resume" with evidence from decades of work which proves he has repeatedly succeeded at doing exactly what you want your employee to do.

Last summer was the time for the club to decide he's our guy and give him a 5 year contract with the intent of letting him have more control over a long term project, transfers, Castilla.

The Brazil job was there for him but instead the club went with it's usual strategy of stringing along a successful coach and this time it backfired because they will lose him, the squad now requires a major overhaul instead of a few tweaks and there's no guarantee the new guy will do better.

 

VDB

 

A great case of don't try to fix what isn't broken because you might break it.

 

He was an elite coach. Not anymore. Same way Mourinho is not an elite coach anymore despite his resume. Ancelotti's most recent successes masked his steady drop among modern coaches who are into analytics, systems and other innovations of modern management. Keeping him longer would not have made him better, he is set in his ways and the football world is moving on.

 

People [wrongfully] assume that 'elite' coaches will always be elite. They might be in terms of resume/legacy, but the skills that made them elite will definitely decline with age/time if they don't adapt. Just like with any profession.

 

He was an elite coach last year when the team win a CL and La Liga double without the starting GK and CB's.


Nobody is living in the past and these are not hot takes, they are pure and utter b.s. and willful ignorance

 

Ideally, he would have made a few tweaks to his managing style and we could have kept him the finish out his contract while Xabi got another season of experience.

The 4 clasico losses, the Lucas Vasquez experiment and the terrible style of play really are hard to come back from a manager standpoint of view.

 

Not so sure about that.

In any case I am very interested in his Brazil career. Its like relationships, sometimes everyone can be at fault and everyone needs a fresh start. I am confident we will not go back to this moment in the future and think yea we should have kept Carlo.