Perfetto, the Return of Carletto! - Benvenuto Carlo Ancelotti

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  1. arcane

    arcane BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Aug 18, 2005
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    Carlo nuthuggers will not like this statement.
     
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  2. 4x4s

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    Switch Xavi for Flick and you have Barca flying, out of the CL for example.
     
  3. fierro

    fierro Member+

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    Lol. Xavi won a la Liga + cup double in the first first year.

    Carlo won a CL his first year at the club, twice.

    What are we even arguing about if any rando can come in and everything will fix itself, or, at least until and long enough for certain people to realize it's a mistake and come up with a convincing argument for blaming next seasons results on the manager, racism, Gen Z, the Superleague, Mbappe, etc.
     
  4. Zidane05

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    Let's be real. 3 trophies first year, CL SF. No one can take that and diminish their accomplishment.
     
  5. arcane

    arcane BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Aug 18, 2005
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    What Flick did for Barca this season was beyond all expectations tbh. The question is how long can he sustain it
     
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  6. RMrules

    RMrules Member+

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    Barcelona are not going to play the CWC which could be a big advantage for them in preparation and resting for next season
     
  7. 4x4s

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    When Valverde did that year in year out there the club looked at him like he smells bad.

    We both know they want the CL, financially most of all.
     
  8. Zidane05

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    Jul 18, 2005
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    Everyone wants CL. But no one in their right mind expected these results from this Barca team.
     
  9. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    We opened as odd favorites for the title at an absurd -600 and by the time Carvajal and Militao went down we were at +350 which widened to +600 as the season went on.

    A lot of Barca's season went in firm lockstep with how bad we have been.

    Their European campaign showed a lot more flaws than the domestic campaign did.

    Atletico were arguably the most disappointing big team in Spain, investing heavily in the attack, and being left with awful numbers despite that.
     
  10. white_raid2

    white_raid2 Member

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    May 9, 2023
    I hope our board, while planning for next season, won't expect them to be worse but even better.
     
  11. 4x4s

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    They'll strengthen the squad as well. I think they had a career season from Raphina, can't rely on that.

    Yamal being with Jorge Mendes doesn't serve well for his long term potential at Barca though. I'm very aware of what's going on there, Mendes came out yesterday saying Yamal should win the Balon d'Or no doubt etc. I can see this relationship being troublesome over the next few years.
     
  12. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

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    Sad ending to otherwise stellar spell at Madrid.
    Knowing when to leave a job is a skill not many possess.
     
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  13. Hendrix22

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    Feb 28, 2010
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    We need to give Carlo the utmost respect in his send off. Despite everything, his legacy as Madrid manager is spectacular. He deserves a statue for real.
     
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  14. robertocarlos3

    robertocarlos3 Member+

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    He sure does. Won a lot for the club.
    and a one way ticket to Brazil... I don't ever want to see him in a manager role in Real Madrid.
     
  15. 4x4s

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    You understand that there's a chance that not just the next coach, but the next 3 could fail, right?

    Practically everybody than Carlo and Zidane has failed spectacularly.

    There's a higher chance to fail than to succeed at this job.
     
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  16. Galatico

    Galatico Member+

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    Aug 15, 2019
    Xabi could ether be a masterstroke or a massive screw up. Time will tell.
     
  17. arcane

    arcane BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Aug 18, 2005
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    So Xabi could either be a hit or a miss. Gee, nobody knew that.

    [​IMG]
     
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  18. cc1412

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    Jan 17, 2005
    While both men are two of the finest managers Madrid ever had, The club won European Cups and Champions Leagues before Carlo and Zidane and will probably win some after them.
     
  19. 4x4s

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    15 coaches took the team after Del Bosque.
    2 of them won the CL.
     
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  20. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
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    Everyone could be that. I believe Klopp's odds of being a success are bigger than those of Xabi but it is what it is.
     
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  21. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    what are advocating for? Seriously, I have no idea what solutions you are thinking.

    Your whole purpose it seems is to find the contrary point and beat it to death.

    No shit any manager who takes over may have bad results. We just suffered through 2 seasons of Carlo with no results. I don’t get your point.
     
  22. Nir_O

    Nir_O Member+

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    Mar 16, 2019
     
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  23. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    I'm pointing out that failing at this job is more likely than succeeding.

    People that jumped on the bandwagon late don't remember how terrifyingly bad this has been for years.

    "I never want to see Ancelotti as coach ever again" can not come from somebody that remembers Lopez Caro, a man that admitted that he would pray for results.
     
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  24. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    but we’re not getting a coach who’s going to pray. We’re getting arguably one of the best young managers in the game, who is a former player and understudy to some of the best managers who he played for.

    We’ve been fortunate that we’ve won as much as we have and likely are not to repeat it for the upcoming decade.

    It seems like you think we should keep Carlo, and refresh the squad. Most here disagree with that notion.
     
  25. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    I can support the NT again. We won't win shit, but at least Carlo is cool.
     

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