Pep Talks Not Working - The Other Teams Thread

Discussion in 'Chelsea' started by Ninjatend0, Jan 24, 2017.

  1. Yahtzee

    Yahtzee Member+

    Nov 4, 2013
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Makes so little sense to not give Poch any transfer money then bring in Jose to then blow the bank. Bizarre. Sometimes I do think some of this shit is scripted.
     
  2. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jose is now the spurisal one...
     
  3. Brock Hannsen

    Brock Hannsen Member+

    Feb 3, 2014
    Hartford, CT
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Something convinced Levy that he'd rather give Jose the money rather than Poch. Poch was revered by fans and even moreso by the media, who could never contain themselves around him. They'd always blow loads about how he's "rebuilt" Spurs. A bold move.

    Meanwhile, in the five years he rebuilt Spurs, Chelsea have:
    -won PL twice
    -FA Cup
    -League Cup
    -Europa
     
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  4. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Jose is a winner who has won a trophy with a club he's managed over the last 15 years. He is also the reason why Madrid are where they are now. Poch is Dell Harris, Mourinho is Phil Jackson.

    That success however, comes with a hazard that anyone who has been paying attention since his time at Madrid can see.
     
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  5. Clan

    Clan Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    Looking at the Spurs team and I just don't see them as a Jose team.
    Poch had them made to win 3-2 or 4-2, even 4-3.
    Jose loves his 1-0, built on counter attacking football and solid at the back, big lads in the middle of the pitch.

    First prediction...Kane to Madrid next Summer.
     
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  6. Brock Hannsen

    Brock Hannsen Member+

    Feb 3, 2014
    Hartford, CT
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Madrid have won the CL three times after he left and are currently tied for first in La Liga. Chelsea did OK without him.

    The script is that he comes in with bluster, maybe wins something, exaggerates it for his own gain, falls out with the club, leaves them with much fanfare, TV pundit.
     
  7. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    But look at where Madrid were before him. Their record in the mid to late 00s Their previous managers before him were Pellegrini, Ramos, and Schuster. It's not exactly a dream team They're not making improvements under Ancelotti or Zidane. Chelsea before his 2nd stint we were kind of in the wilderness. I mean, we had to give RDM the job because he won the CL! Mourinho is good at setting teams up, getting them over the line.

    And I'm not disagreeing. He has a pedigree, but he'll end up fighting everyone because he's a textbook narcissist.
     
  8. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I wonder if he’ll camp out at a hotel for the duration of his tenure?
     
  9. 352klr

    352klr Member

    Jan 29, 2001
    The Burgh of Edin
    He’s gonna have to. They’re so far away from his digs on Eaton Square it might as well be Manchester.
     
  10. limpidrock

    limpidrock Member

    Mar 19, 2008
    Tottenham might become the first club where Mourinho doesn't win anything.

    This appointment is good for us isn't it? One less challenger for a top four in the next few seasons.
     
  11. Ninjatend0

    Ninjatend0 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 10, 2007
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    i think i may have to disagree. i certainly don't see his tenure as a long one, but he has what spurs have lacked with Poch, the winning mentality and the ability to give that mentality to his players. Poch, for all his good qualities, lacked in some of the most important, i think Jose makes up some of those deficiencies. the question will be how he gets this team to play and how the players respond to it.

    there was a lot of talk that the game had tactically passed Jose by, and honestly i think you could see that against the best opposition. but top 4 is certainly in their reach and there were rumors that Jose took some time to really self asses and look at the game and adapt to the last few years of tactical changes. if he figured it out, it could be dangerous. at the end of the day we just don't know, but looking at the last few years of Jose only, compared to his entire career, could be a mistake.
     
  12. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mou joins in November and says he doesn’t need transfers in January. February rolls around and he’s slamming him team and the Spurs saying he needs more to work with.

    Book it.
     
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  13. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    "I was always humble, in my way. The problem is you didn't understand that."

    The man is cracked. I'm glad he's back in football, at least the media will have somewhere else to point their microphones.
     
  14. Wrath

    Wrath Member+

    May 4, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    He clearly doesn't understand the definition of humble. It's sad as I really looked up to him. He destroyed his legacy here.
     
  15. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Jose's always been like that.

    He's still a legend and he'll be associated with Chelsea. Now? I'm enjoying the current ride.
     
  16. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    A while back, I saw an article in the Guardian how Mourinho had been using the same assistants while Fergie for instance changed his assistants every now and then.

    It's telling that Jose hasn't brought back Rui Faria for instance.
     
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  17. Ninjatend0

    Ninjatend0 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 10, 2007
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    agreed, i'm afraid the time off and perspective may have done him some good. we'll see.
     
  18. Brock Hannsen

    Brock Hannsen Member+

    Feb 3, 2014
    Hartford, CT
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    He brought a few analysts and scouts; it's hard to find a first rate staff mid-season, but he was able to pry talent away from Lille, who are a point outside a CL spot.

    I think Jose will bring this team together and start winning some matches. I think, talent-wise, the personnel are better than what he had at United.

    They should beat West Ham and Olympiacos this coming week.
     
  19. Wrath

    Wrath Member+

    May 4, 2007
    New York
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Rui has managerial commitments in Qatar. If he was free, he might probably have joined him back. But good sign that he might want to change.
     
  20. Kazuma

    Kazuma Member+

    Chelsea
    Jul 30, 2007
    Detroit
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I've been arguing that he needed a break after Chelsea, if anything after Madrid.
     
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  21. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Stolen from the Interwebz;. Jose's last 6 jobs:

    Chelsea
    Inter
    Real
    Chelsea
    United
    Spurs

    :D
     
  23. StamfordBridgeLions

    Chelsea FC
    Sep 4, 2016
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Golden boy. Jao Felix , 20, is golden boy. Borussia Dortmund and England winger Jadon Sancho, 19, finished second with Bayer Leverkusen and Germany midfielder Kai Havertz, 20, third.

    The Golden Boy award was created by Italian newspaper Tuttosport in 2003 to recognise the best young player in Europe. Nominees must be under the age of 21 and play in a European nation's top tier.
     
  24. StamfordBridgeLions

    Chelsea FC
    Sep 4, 2016
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Ajax 3-0 up, nope wait, VAR, now it is 2-0 up against Lille.
     
  25. Kerry Dixon's Boots

    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2006
    77 degrees
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-50592077

    Not the closure the families of the Hillsborough victims were looking for.

    I expect the darkest chapter in english football will run and run. Watching the scenes unfold on Grandstand is still seared in my memory, just a tragic day all around.

    Pretty much everyone I grew up with was a liverpool fan back then (by far the biggest team in the country) and it was a strange atmosphere at school the following week. No one even wanted the usual post school game of 3 and in on the local green which, for a bunch of 10 year olds, is a pretty drastic reaction.
     
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