Peaceniks rue Iraq handover, are still painting victory as defeat

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  1. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
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    Peaceniks rue Iraq handover, are still painting victory as defeat
    By Debra J. Saunders

    "IRAQ is now at a setback, but it is temporary. We will rise up like mountains, standing firm, and we will protect all people regardless of religion, color and every other consideration. Pluralism should be a factor of progress, not divisiveness,' said Iraq's new interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi as he took office Monday morning.

    Difficult and bloody days are ahead, but this small victory provides a moment to pause and marvel at what U.S. troops, coalition troops and freedom- minded Iraqis were able to achieve despite the many factions that toiled so desperately for the new Iraq to fail.

    Physician Hamoudi al-Bander of Orinda, Calif., who fled Iraq with his family in 1973, was ecstatic. Finally, al-Bander said over the phone, "there's the prospect of equal rights and equal opportunity for all' in Iraq. Al-Bander doesn't approve of everything that has happened in Iraq during the war, but he sees hope that Iraq can be better for it if America stays the course.

    Former U.S. arms inspector David Kay became a darling of the left when he told Congress in January that "we were almost all wrong' "we' meaning the international intelligence community, and "almost all wrong' meaning wrong in the conviction that Saddam Hussein commanded large caches of weapons of mass destruction.

    When asked Monday if he thought the "pre-emptive strike' against Iraq was justified, Kay told the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco that while he re-evaluates the equation daily, "I think we did a tremendous good in ridding the world of Saddam (Hussein) and his sons.'

    Alas, where Kay sees humanitarian gains, peaceniks prefer to see "occupation' even as the coalition hands authority over to the Iraqis early.

    The anti-war and quasi-anti-war left should be applauding the peaceful turnover of sovereignty. Instead, the anti-war group International ANSWER has been organizing new rallies to protest the "fake sovereignty.' America is moving closer to the day when U.S. troops can go home yet the anti-war crowd is furious.
     
  2. Dan Loney

    Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 10, 2000
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    "Quasi-anti-war left"?

    Did she, like, take a mouthful of Alpha-Bits, spit them into the air, and type out what landed?

    But some guy in Orinda thinks we won? Oh, GOOD. I was WORRIED. Jesus wept.
     
  3. Revolt

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    Jun 16, 1999
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    I don't have a problem with this here, but Debra Saunders is a political op-ed writer, and not really on anyone's A-lists of must-reads. The lefties here tend to cite NEWS articles. I could cull op-ed pieces pretty easily to support my side. Heck, I'll go find some Tucker Carlson or George Will or Pat Buchanan articles.

    The quote that I snipped is a perfect example why Saunders is so off-off-Broadway. Is Kay saying that he again supports the invasion? No. The point is to build a strawman saying the left supports Saddam.

    Everyone, I mean everyone in the west is happy that the evil Saddam is gone. So, if she wants to devote 1/4 of her piece to David Kay and take a swipe at the left in the process, that's dandy. Just don't expect much reaction.

    I suspect that when she leads her lemming army off the cliff, there's only going to be one splash.
     
  4. bigredfutbol

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    Sep 5, 2000
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    Typical. Take a fringe group like ANSWER and let it stand in for the whole spectrum of groups and opinions against the war. It's getting to be a tired routine.




    PS In the beginning, I conditionally supported the war in spite of many misgivings. In the past few months, I have mostly regretted that, but even if I hadn't changed my mind, I still wouldn't find anything of merit in this article.
     
  5. Jacen McCullough

    Nov 23, 1998
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    I'd rep you for that last sentence alone, but I apparently already did recently (I can never remember who I rep from day to day). Trademark that line. It's classic.
     
  6. Roel

    Roel Member

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    The article is an op-ed piece, of little value. Typical pro-Bush clap-trap, make up something outrageous and then act indignant about it.
     
  7. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
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    Another load of crap thread started by MiamiAce, er I mean InTheNet, er I mean Letterman, er I mean Ian.
     
  8. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    If they kill more Russians, they win. If we kill more Frenchmen, we win.

    -What do we win?

    WHAT DO WE WIN??? Imagine your loved ones conquered by Napoleon and forced to live under French rule! Do you want them to eat all that rich food and those heavy sauces?

    - Woody Allen
    ---

    What did we win, Ian?
     
  9. Roel

    Roel Member

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    Love & Death, one of the best movies, ever!
     

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