PDL playoff races going down to the wire

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  1. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    This is the final weekend of the PDL regular season and there are several playoff spots still being contested.

    Ten teams have clinched a playoff spot; 11 teams are going for the final six spots.

    CENTRAL CONFERENCE
    Great Lakes Division (3 teams, 2 spots)
    IN: none

    Indiana – 15 games, 33 points
    7/17 – Ft. Wayne

    Michigan – 15 games, 32 points
    7/17 @Toledo

    Ft. Wayne – 15 games, 31 points
    @Indiana

    Heartland Division (2 teams, 1 spot)
    In: Chicago

    Boulder – 16 games, 37 points
    7/16 – Des Moines
    7/17 – Utah

    Thunder Bay - 16 games, 33 points
    7/16 – Chicago
    7/17 – Chicago

    EASTERN CONFERENCE
    Mid Atlantic Division (2 teams, 1 spot)
    In: Carolina

    Williamsburg – 16 games, 27 points
    7/17 – Carolina
    7/18 - @Northern Virginia

    Richmond – 16 games, 25 points
    7/16 - @West Virginia
    7/18 – Carolina

    Northeast Division (2 teams, 1 spot)
    In: South Jersey

    Cape Cod – 17 games, 36 points
    7/17 @ Vermont

    Albany - 17 games, 36 points
    @ Jersey

    SOUTHERN CONFERENCE
    Mid South Division (no spots left)
    In: Dallas-Ft. Worth, El Paso

    Southeast Division (2 teams, 1 spot)
    In: Central Florida

    Cocoa – 16 games, 32 points
    7/16 – Bradenton
    7/18 - @Central Florida

    Orlando – 17 games, 31 points
    7/16 - @Palm Beach

    WESTERN CONFERENCE
    Northwest Division (no spots left)
    In: Cascade, Spokane

    Southwest Division (no spots left)
    In: Orange County, Fresno

    There could be several ties.

    Indiana-Michigan can tie at 33 points.
    Thunder Bay-Boulder can tie at 37 points.
    Williamsburg-Richmond could tie at 27, 29 or 31 points.
    Cape Cod-Albany could tie at 36, 37 or 39 points.
    Cocoa-Orlando could tie at 32 or 34 points.

    I have no idea what the tie-breakers are so I won't list who leads in what (head-to-head, wins, goal differential). Anybody know what the tie-breakers are?
     
  2. Dave Brull

    Dave Brull Member

    Mar 9, 2001
    Mayfield Hts, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've asked this same question in the Great Lakes thread. I have tried to figure out some common tie breakers (hea to head, goal differential) and state who would win in each case, between Fort Wayne, Indiana, and Michigan, any of these two teams can go into the playoffs in certain scenarios. This is only for the GLC of course. I have looked on the USL website and found nothing.
     
  3. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tie-breakers are listed here http://www.uslsoccer.com/aboutusl/rules/index_E.html

    In the Great Lakes Division standings:

    A tie with Fort Wayne and Michigan (at 32 points) favors Michigan. (1) Head-to-head is a 1-1-1 split. (2) Wins are tied at 10. (3) Goal difference: Michigan is +30, Fort Wayne is +14, so Michigan would have to lose by at least 16 goals (he says sarcastically) to give this to FTW. [In this scenario, Indiana wins the division with 34.]

    A tie with Indiana and Michigan (at 33 points) favors Michigan, winning both games from Indiana. [Fort Wayne wins the division with 34.]

    In the Heartland division:

    A tie with Boulder and Thunder Bay (at 37 points) favors Boulder. (1) Head-to-head doesn't apply [teams didn't play each other!]. (2) Wins are tied at 12. (3) Goal differential is Boulder +23, Thunder Bay +3.
     
  4. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    OK, Cocoa won Friday night so they are in and eliminating Orlando. Also, Boulder clinched a playoff spot despite losing Friday night because Thunder Bay fell to Chicago.

    So, 12 of the 16 playoff spots have been clinched.

    Also Friday night, Richmond won Friday night to move a point (28-27) ahead of Williamsburg for the final spot in the Mid Atlantic. But Richmond only has one game left while Williamsburg has two.

    The teams could still tie if Richmond loses its final game and Williamsburg gets a tie and a loss OR if Williamsburg gets a win and a tie and Richmond ties its final game.

    Thanks for listing the tie-breakers, btw.
     
  5. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Updated after Friday night's games.

    Twelve teams have clinched a playoff spot; seven teams are going for the final four spots.

    Teams in italics have clinched their division and will play the runner-up of the OTHER division in their conference next week in the conferenc semi-finals.

    CENTRAL CONFERENCE
    Great Lakes Division (3 teams, 2 spots)
    IN: none

    Indiana – 15 games, 33 points
    7/17 – Ft. Wayne

    Michigan – 15 games, 32 points
    7/17 - @Toledo

    Ft. Wayne – 15 games, 31 points
    7/17 - @Indiana

    Heartland Division (no spots left)
    In: Chicago, Boulder

    EASTERN CON]FERENCE
    Mid Atlantic Division (2 teams, 1 spot)
    In: Carolina

    Richmond – 17 games, 28 points
    7/18 – Carolina

    Williamsburg – 16 games, 27 points
    7/17 – Carolina
    7/18 - @Northern Virginia

    Northeast Division (2 teams, 1 spot)
    In: South Jersey

    Cape Cod – 17 games, 36 points
    7/17 @ Vermont

    Albany - 17 games, 36 points
    @ Jersey

    SOUTHERN CONFERENCE
    Mid South Division (no spots left)
    In: El Paso, Dallas-Ft. Worth

    Southeast Division (no spots left)
    In: Central Florida, Cocoa

    WESTERN CONFERENCE
    Northwest Division (no spots left)
    In: Cascade, Spokane

    Southwest Division (no spots left)
    In: Orange County, Fresno

    There could still be some ties.

    Indiana-Michigan can tie at 33 points. Or...
    Ft. Wayne-Michigan can tie at 32 points.
    Williamsburg-Richmond could tie at 28 or 31 points.
    Cape Cod-Albany could tie at 36, 37 or 39 points.

    Tie-breakers are, in order, (1) Head-to-head games, (2) Wins, (3) Goal difference.

    SJJ already handled the Great Lakes Division tie breakers.

    Richmond won two out of three against Williamsburg so they win that-tie breaker.

    Albany-Cape Cod split their regular season games but Cape Cod has one more win (12-11) than Albany so they win that tie-breaker.

    Also, in the Northwest Division, Cascade and Spokane are tied at 31 points with a game remaining. Spokane hosts Yakima Saturday while Cascade hosts Abbotsford Sunday. If both teams are still tied in points after this weekend, the division title goes to Cascade, which won the head-to-head matchup three games to one.

    I think I've covered all the scenarios.
     
  6. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    On Saturday...

    Ft. Wayne beat Indiana and Michigan beat Toledo so Michigan wins the Great Lakes and Ft. Wayne gets the second playoff spot.

    Cape Cod won its last game and clinched the second spot in the Northeast.

    Williamsburg beat Carolina to leapfrog Richmond into second place in the Mid Atlantic. Both teams have a game today (Sunday) and Richmond trails by 2, so they need to win and for Williamsburg to lose to get the final PDL playoff spot.
     
  7. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Williamsburg and Richmond both won their final games Saturday but the final playoffspot goes to Williamsburg, which finished with two more points. Also, in the Northwest Division, Spokane and Cascade both won their final games and finished tied in points so Cascade gets the division title based on head-to-head match-ups (the first tie breaker) which they won 3-1.

    Here are the playoff matchups for this weekend. I don't have dates and locations but one of the teams participating in each conference's playoffs hosts all that conference's games.

    WESTERN CONFERENCE
    Cascade (1) vs. Fresno (2)
    Orange County (1) vs. Spokane (2)

    SOUTHERN CONFERENCE
    El Paso (1) vs. Cocoa (2)
    Central Florida (1) vs. Dallas-Ft. Worth

    EASTERN CONFERENCE
    Jersey Shore (1) vs. Williamsburg (2)
    Carolina (1) vs. Cape Cod (2)

    CENTRAL CONFERENCE
    Michigan (1) vs. Boulder (2)
    Chicago (1) vs. Fort Wayne (2)
     
  8. Dsocc

    Dsocc Member

    Feb 13, 2002
    Apparently these game will be in Fort Wayne this weekend.
     
  9. ButlerBob

    ButlerBob Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    Evanston, IL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  10. Dave Brull

    Dave Brull Member

    Mar 9, 2001
    Mayfield Hts, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would be willing to come in for this game. Are any other Bucks - Fort Wayne fans/ Bigsoccer posters going to be there? Tailgate? (I know it's PDL but if I am going drive 6 hours, I want an experience!)
     
  11. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  12. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001

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