PBP Thread: Match #9, Brazil vs Switzerland, 17 June 2018 [R]

Discussion in 'GROUP E: Brazil, Switzerland, Costa Rica, Serbia' started by Paul Calixte, Jun 13, 2018.

  1. monere

    monere Guest

    you ok bud?
     
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  2. monere

    monere Guest

    good point
     
  3. Brasitusa

    Brasitusa Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    May 14, 2014
    Club:
    New York City FC
    I've been saying it from the beginning. I know Neymar very well. I'm used to how he plays, this most definitely isn't Neymar at 100%. Not even close.

    And yes, Switzerland's goal was most definitely invalid. If you take the defender out of the play by shoving him aside and then you score with a header, that's called a foul, and not a goal. Shame.

    Since VAR does exist, the decision of not looking it up is preposterous.
     
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  4. Brasitusa

    Brasitusa Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    May 14, 2014
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Yeah, that's after he took Miranda out by pushing him away. Then he got free like a bird. Illegal goal.
     
  5. monere

    monere Guest

    ok. Sorry, then :(
     
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  6. Brasitusa

    Brasitusa Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    May 14, 2014
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Advantage, ref!

    Darn, this is a bad ref. The first game really poorly officiated, and it had to be the one played by Brazil. Dammit!
     
  7. tudobem62014

    tudobem62014 Member+

    Feb 26, 2014
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
     
  8. monere

    monere Guest

    lol, schar wanting to take neymar home :)
     
  9. tudobem62014

    tudobem62014 Member+

    Feb 26, 2014
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    But they have replay... how can they not enforce the rules. That means 3 refs made a mistake. One on the field and two in the box? Impossible

    Fine if it’s not racism... it’s favoritism. Switzerland and France are the governing bodies and they get advantages which I guess I’m ok with. U spend time organizing the party you should get some advantage. Everyone saw how they changed the rules for the draw in 2014 so France and Switzerland could benefit at the cost of Italy.
     
  10. monere

    monere Guest

    bias? Possible. But it has nothing to do with the race of the players. Stop talking nonsense
     
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  11. Brasitusa

    Brasitusa Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    May 14, 2014
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Coutinho! Don't miss it like this!
     
  12. monere

    monere Guest

    nice dummy there by philippe.... too bad his shot went wide
     
  13. tudobem62014

    tudobem62014 Member+

    Feb 26, 2014
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    See Swiss player goes down and you go to VAR immediately! It’s racism / favoritism
     
  14. ne plus ultra

    ne plus ultra Member

    Jul 9, 2000
    Yeah, a red card and we'd never have another world cup blemished by such bullshit. Gutless refereeing is what lets that happen.
     
  15. Brasitusa

    Brasitusa Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    May 14, 2014
    Club:
    New York City FC
    The thing is, apparently the authority rests with the ref on the field and the VAR review needs to be initiated by the ref. If he feels there is no reason to look, then he doesn't. So, it's the main ref on the field's mistake. For whatever reason, the angle he saw, he felt that the push was not big deal (when it clearly was, on replay from multiple angles).

    FIFA has introduced VAR but unlike the NFL where the review refs have more authority than the field crew and can (and often do) reverse the field call, for FIFA, the main ref maintains the ultimate authority over the VAR crew.
     
  16. Deep Wilcox

    Deep Wilcox BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 5, 2007
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Very close to a PK
     
  17. Brasitusa

    Brasitusa Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    May 14, 2014
    Club:
    New York City FC
    OH MY GOD!!! Two arms around Jesus, just like the PK called for Croatia, and nothing happens! This officiating crew is really trying to get Brazil down!!!
     
  18. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Not a penalty. The video shows that he tried to milk the contact.
     
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  19. RealMadridista

    RealMadridista Member+

    Aug 21, 2006
    Chicago Il
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Albania playing well
    Pardon switzerland [emoji23]
     
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  20. Brasitusa

    Brasitusa Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    May 14, 2014
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Where is this ref from?
     
  21. RealMadridista

    RealMadridista Member+

    Aug 21, 2006
    Chicago Il
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Mexican
    Explains why he allows physical game
     
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  22. tudobem62014

    tudobem62014 Member+

    Feb 26, 2014
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Wait then how did they award Perú the penalty... that was not initiated by the ref.

    You telling me the guy who made the mistake has to initiate the review of his call? That’s like the President being the head of Congress.

    Love u Brasitusa... been reading ur posts since 2014 but just disagree with these ref calls.
     
  23. Brasitusa

    Brasitusa Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    May 14, 2014
    Club:
    New York City FC
    OK, weird because he wouldn't have an interest in having Brazil finishing second in the group, if Mexico finishes first.
     
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  24. tudobem62014

    tudobem62014 Member+

    Feb 26, 2014
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Haha it would behoove him to let Brazil win after that Mexico game this morning.
     
  25. Brasitusa

    Brasitusa Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    May 14, 2014
    Club:
    New York City FC
    I disagree with the call too, but the main ref is the one who makes that rectangle sign with the hands, initiating VAR. That's how FIFA wanted it.
     

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