PBP Thread: Match #5, France vs Australia, 16 June 2018 [R]

Discussion in 'GROUP C: France, Peru, Denmark, Australia' started by Paul Calixte, Jun 13, 2018.

  1. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    You are sounding like the NASA conspiracy theorists who say that since all the planet imagary stuff we have is CGI it is all fake. :D
     
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  2. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member+

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    Please man, I worked for NASA.

    It is impressive how today's football audience is convinced that a goal is valid just because a stock image is replayed on every Hawkeye decision.

    Why not show real video? After all, real images were used to reach the decision in the first place.

    Edit: Forgot the winking smiley after "NASA".... Iceland almost scored against Argentina, just now. Laters.
     
  3. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    Maybe because it is easier for people to see in the stadium using the cartoon imagery on the big screen.
     
  4. AT2018

    AT2018 Member

    AC Milan
    Spain
    Jun 14, 2018
    Thanks. I understand that, I'm terrible at acronyms.
     
  5. 954gator

    954gator Member

    Jun 16, 2016
    I would have absolutely hated playing Australia first.
     
  6. 954gator

    954gator Member

    Jun 16, 2016
    They controlled the ball alot better than I thought they would. This should be a concern for France. They didn't seem too comfortable with the Aussie press.
     
  7. laurasoccerfreak

    Atlético Mineiro
    Brazil
    Nov 24, 2017
    If Germany, Spain, Brazil or any of the so said "favorites" want to get another star on their jerseys, the time is now.
    If nothing unexpected happens in the next 4 years, the next WC has already a winner.
    I have the impression this french youth won't be easy at all to beat when they're more experienced and when they melt into a team. And they'll have time for this.
    Anyway everything I don't want is Brazil meeting them during this WC. If they start playing together, our fate is signed with our bestia negra.
     
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  8. BrahmaBull

    BrahmaBull Member

    AS Saint-Etienne
    France
    May 7, 2014
    Italy
    Club:
    AS Saint Étienne
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    I would actually be hyped as hell for a semi France vs Brazil :D
    But we are very far from being there at the moment lol
     
  9. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    Based on what exactly ? ... Denmark have a 15 game in a row unbeaten streak, while Peru had a 15 game unbeaten streak, that just came to an end with their loss to Denmark ... but Peru are still better than Australia ... in fact I think Peru have a very good chance of beating a French team that does not seem to have much if any game plan at all ...
     
  10. Daninho777

    Daninho777 Member

    Sep 23, 2009
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    When an underdog plays decent against a hot favourite they are suddenly over hyped. Australia isn’t better than Peru or Denmark. They will really struggle against Peru especially with their ball movement, individual skill and their press.
     
  11. thewitness

    thewitness Member

    Melbourne Victory, Derby County
    Australia
    Jul 10, 2013
    Club:
    Derby County FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    This is about correct. Australia played about as well as expected by Australian fans, which was better than most of the rest of the world expected, but they were made to look better by a worse than expected France. I think the Aussies will actually struggle more against the Danish tactics than Peru’s, but I’m confident they will grab at least a point from one of those remaining games.
     
  12. Daninho777

    Daninho777 Member

    Sep 23, 2009
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Possibly, it depends how they play against Peru. If they come out to attack and leave space for Peru to counter they will struggle. The Aussie defenders really aren't that good. If they're left exposed they can be very shaky. Having said that though, they will still be very difficult to defeat for both Denmark and Peru as they are a tough team to play against.
     
  13. vitalogy

    vitalogy New Member

    Jun 3, 2013
  14. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    The main problem that Australia now face is that they are in desperate need of a win against Denmark ... and they have said themselves that they will go all in against Denmark, meaning that they can not be playing as defensively solid as against France, because they need to do more in attack ... Ireland did exactly the same at home against Denmark in the WC play-off's and got totally run over ... just as Poland that faced Denmark in an open batle in the away qualifier and lost 4-0 ..

    Denmark often struggle against teams that bunker (like Iceland did against Argentina), but not really against European-style teams that face them in an open battle, because it then leave too much room for an Eriksen to shine ...He had a bit of an off-day against Peru, though he did make the assist, but i would not count on him also having an off-day against Australia ..
     
  15. vitalogy

    vitalogy New Member

    Jun 3, 2013
    We can still play compact and have a chance to win the match 2-0. The most important thing will be us scoring first so we can counter.
     
  16. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    I think your tactical analysis here is based more on supporting your nation rather than anything else. I actually hope your team shares your attitude towards your opponent, but I know they don't.
     
  17. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    Hope you understand that Denmark has not let in 2 goals in their past 17 games in a row ... in fact, no goals have been scored against Denmark in 2018 and Schmeichel just beat his fathers old clean sheets record from the early 90's ..
     
  18. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    Actually it's the other way around ... I believe it to be better to have a look at the facts and figures rather than base my tactical analysis on wishful thinking ...
     
  19. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    I also know we haven't kept a clean sheet in a world cup finals match since a 0-0 draw in 1974, so obviously we are due to concede none and you are due to concede 3, but historical stuff isn't where I differ in your analysis. First of all, in terms of qualifying we aren't desperate to win as you said, we are desperate not to lose. A win would be nice, but a draw keeps us alive regardless of what happens in the other game. I wouldn't expect us to be throwing caution to the wind. I would expect us to play a bit more defensively than against France. I also don't think Denmark are as talented a team as France individually, so its a bit easier to keep a solid defensive format against Denmark than France as France can be a bit more unpredictable. Of course, early goals can change the match tactics, but if the game is still tied at the three quarter mark I think it will be Denmark who will want to go all out for a win rather than the other way around. The last thing Denmark will want is to need a result against France to qualify, and if Peru can get points off France and Denmark don't get all three against Australia then things go down to the wire, and Denmark has the hardest last game.
     
  20. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    I don't think France has a team ... they have some good individual players but no actual game plan... so personally I think Peru probably was the most difficult opponent for Denmark in this group .... based on their performance against Australia, I won't be surprise if France lose both their last two games...
     
  21. jogger

    jogger Member

    Jun 24, 2010
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    Well based on Denmark performance against Peru, this holds true for the Danes too. From what I saw, France beating Denmark (who may not have the possiblity to bunker in their encounter) is more likely than the reverse.
     
  22. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    #122 Ceres, Jun 17, 2018
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2018
    Denmark do not look like they have a team or game plan ? ... that is news to me ... if there is something Denmark do have, then it's both a game plan and an excellent team work .. and if not for a game plan Denmark would surely have lost to Peru ...

    The match against Peru show that even on a day where Eriksen had a bit of an off-day, where his corners and set pieces were pretty bad all the way through the match, though he did make the assist, and only the keeper and defense were doing well, the game plan still saved the day against a strong looking Peru that had not lost a match 15 games in a row ..... as for the "bunkering" then the possession was 52% v 48% in favor of Peru, but is was actually Denmark having most possession up until the 1-0 goal, then they chose to defend the result ... it's not like Denmark only have one tool in the toolbox, then can play either way, depending on how a match progress ...
     
  23. BrahmaBull

    BrahmaBull Member

    AS Saint-Etienne
    France
    May 7, 2014
    Italy
    Club:
    AS Saint Étienne
    Nat'l Team:
    France

    You are definitely overrating your team and underestimating all the others from what I can read from your posts since weeks lol.
    France always struggle in their first match, its nothing new, I don’t say we will rape Peru and Denmark at all, but don’t expect us to give you the same gifts we did to Australia.
     
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  24. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    No ... I'm just pointing out that France have good players but do not look like a team with a game plan ... both Peru and Denmark are mainly about team-work and game plan ...
     
  25. Mr X

    Mr X Member

    Denmark
    Jun 6, 2012
    Whatever Denmarks game plan was yesterday it was poorly constructed and even worse executed. It was basically 11 players in panic mode for 90 minutes with almost no consecutive passes. The only thing that kept Denmark alive in that match was outstanding individual performances. Especially from Schmeicel and Christensen. As a collective even the defense looked extremely shaky and without a plan.

    I wouldn't be too confident in the team. They need to step up big time if they want to get a result against Australia. I hope it was just nerves that got the best of them as I know they can play much better than they did yesterday. But I have my fears.
     

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