PBP Thread: Match #11, Germany vs Mexico, 17 June 2018 [R]

Discussion in 'GROUP F: Germany, Mexico, Sweden, South Korea' started by Paul Calixte, Jun 13, 2018.

  1. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    Mexicanos, great job. A tactical performance to remember.
     
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  2. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich Member+

    Jul 11, 2006
    In the end I'm glad Jogi lost. He's a bitch ass coach.
     
  3. JoCryuff98

    JoCryuff98 Member+

    Barcelona
    Netherlands
    Jan 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I’m glad that this Germany didn’t face in form Brazil if they were in the same group LOL.
     
  4. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yes, but also people used to pointed that no team that lost opening game can go on to win the thropy, and Spain did in 2010.
     
  5. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    What about the no team from Group F has ever won the World Cup stat?
    Germany was doomed from the start! :p
     
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  6. JoseEmidio

    JoseEmidio Member+

    Dec 6, 2009
    London
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    After the game ;)
     
  7. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    From your text to God's eyes I hope it may be true.
     
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  8. I'm more confident of Mexico playing well vs strong teams than being favourites. As always.
     
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  9. nick p

    nick p Member+

    Jul 11, 2009
    Baltimore Maryland
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder why none of the big clubs have moved for ochoa he performed well in 2014 and is doing it again?
     
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  10. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Neymar was on the field for a total of 200 minutes against Chile & Colombia, no goal no assist. Yea, if he's on semifinal he'd get an early hattrick against that solid German team...:laugh:
     
  11. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Mexico
    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Most underrated goalie in the world.
     
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  12. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Mexico
    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund

    ********ing Chucky.
     
  13. #463 El CHarro_NEgro...., Jun 17, 2018
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2018
    Well, he has gotten a lot of practice at his previous clubs. :p
     
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  14. Brasitusa

    Brasitusa Member+

    AC Milan
    Italy
    May 14, 2014
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Neymar has NEVER lost a game with the Brazil senior team. The same can't be said of Messi.
     
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  15. tudobem62014

    tudobem62014 Member+

    Feb 26, 2014
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Everyone is human. There’s no X-men. You get overconfident you lose. You know they thought well our bench won the confed cup... smells like 1994 lol

     
  16. John McGuirk

    John McGuirk Member+

    Jun 12, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ummm no. Not what I meant.
     
  17. tudobem62014

    tudobem62014 Member+

    Feb 26, 2014
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Yep Germany didn’t need a dynamic Sane on attack.. hehe

    Got too smart for themselves
     
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  18. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Mexico
    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    [​IMG]
    Hirving "Chucky" Lozano, MOTM.
     
  19. TheHitman47

    TheHitman47 Member

    Jan 14, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Poland isn't an Elite counter attacking team. Sorry not sorry.
     
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  20. LGRod

    LGRod Member+

    Mexico
    Aug 14, 2010
    Listenin to Los Bookies
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I think it was Ochoa since he played the full 90
     
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  21. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don’t find it that crazy. Mexico is always tough to beat. The only reason Mexico isn’t regularly seeded is that they’re in North America and only get 85% of the points they deserve
     
  22. RealMadridista

    RealMadridista Member+

    Aug 21, 2006
    Chicago Il
    Club:
    Real Madrid
  23. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    Granted anything can happen, but it would be a colossal failure for them to crash out. They are just flat out better than Sweden and S. Korea, Germany was the hurdle that was just too high to top. But it wasn't, and for the first time since '02, winning the group can give them a match where they'd likely be a favorite (though Brazil's draw today complicates thing).

    Hopefully they can top that hurdle, and then they'd get the winner of (well, my prediction would be Colombia vs England) in the quarters, and then my god, the semi's are actually possible. 1 step at a time, but it's possible if things break well and they handle their business.
     
  24. tudobem62014

    tudobem62014 Member+

    Feb 26, 2014
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Don’t understand why chicharito being pushed down was not a penalty and no VAR
     
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  25. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    I don't see it. Nobody thought about Senegal heading into the Cup in '02.

    Mexico is a top 16 team at minimum at every World Cup and typically they usually fit somewhere in that 9th-12th area. As such a 9th-12th best team, beating a top 2-3 team (#1 for some, but I liked Brazil, Spain, and France better for the title this time around-of course that view isn't looking great so far either) shouldn't be that shocking. It's an upset, something that probably doesn't happen in regulation 85-95% of the time, but it will still happen, my guess is about once every 15-25 World Cup games. So far we've had Iceland, and the Swiss pull off shock draws, Iran pull of a minor upset, and Mexico pull off a major upset. Every one of those results save the Iran one was a result not far from Mexico's in terms of odds.

    Germany was -215 to win this game straight up three weeks ago. That's a legit favorite, but hell, after the Caps lost game in the Stanley Cup a few weeks ago Las Vegas was -180 or -185 to win it.

    I don't say any of this to take away from Mexico's win, I think it was a fantastic accomplishment especially considering that Germany is one of those classic teams that's a nightmare match up for Mexico (just as technical, just as refined and fluid and clever, but much, much bigger and taller, and much more of a complete threat in the attack, and typically more robust and difficult to break down defensively), as such the win will go down as one of the best in Mexico History (maybe the best in terms of the quality of opposition, but not the best in terms of how huge the win was (advancing to the quarterfinals in '86 was bigger in my view-pushing the Finalists, Germany, to penalties in said quarterfinal was bigger as well).
     
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