PBP Match Thread: Serbia vs Switzerland, 22 June 2018 [R]

Shaqiri will soon transfer to Liverpool...Good for him

 

Looking at replays now. Clear PK for Mitro according to our ref in the studio. I agree. The Swiss players were only focused on holding him. Strange VAR did'nt pick that up.

 

Serbia could score against Brazil but i can't see these players not conceede...

Will have to play the game of their lives.

 

Agree...Tough luck for Serbia...Any conspiracy theory?

 

That's good...3rd game should decide everything...

 

refereeing (not only this match, but almost in all of them) has transformed itself, in a joke.

And this with the adition of the VAR, which is suposed to rule out those situations that weren't seen, now has turned their whole officiating job into the WC's biggest embarrasment.

With this match, together with their match against Brazil (where their hacks never got sactioned), the swiss team gets away with whatever they want to do, with the complicity of the referee's that are helping them to achieve it.

Seems as this WC has been rigged so FIFA can almost decide whom will win it all, where it really seems as they want their local team (where FIFA's headquarters are), to achieve that goal.


I'm not liking this WC....

 

I wouldn't have had any complaints had that been called. Shocked VAR didn't kick in.

 

Infantino is Swiss. They were already favored in the match against Brazil.

 

Every WC has its own problems and controversies. VAR is just helping to minimize them. It's not perfect yet...It's still run by humans...lol

 

I'm not one to go for those conspiracies... but it is a bit suspicious that both of the most glaring VAR omissions has been in favor of the Swiss... I think honestly it makes no sense because Swtizerland winning a WC is still a very long shot and they don't have a history of being helped by the refs... but those two calls completely changed their group.

 

2 matches ?

No, not only those 2 matches (many matches as well).

Yesterday's match between Croatia and Argentina were a hack fest, where both teams were going down at each other at will, with the referee acting as a blind man and not even using the VAR, to rule things out.

Or what about the bear hugs inside the penalty zone ? (Harry Kane's, for instance). Todays bear hug , were 2 players going on over the same attacker, at the same time inside the penalty zone (how the hell, can't an action like that at least not even go for a review by the VAR ?)

Referee's in many matches stop the game before a free kick is going to be taken, taking over 40 seconds of time to issue multiple warnings on players about holding each other, to afterwards re-start the match, and where the holding between players continue, and the referee afterwards does nothing, giving no credibility to all the "warning show" they mounted a few seconds earlier.

At the past with no VAR in place, at least there was some doubt, about calls not being called. Now with VAR in place, it really seems that it is all, on purpose.

Officiating is "killing" the game.

 

Yeah, because refereeing before used to be sooooooo perfect. No controversies in previous World Cups.

 

Really don't know about that.

Yet.........

 

On the contrary, with the VAR it makes it be even more questionable than how it was before, as with 2 plays exactly alike between each other, sometimes they use VAR, and sometimes they decide to not use it.

And not being consequent on its usage, only raises more doubts on the issue.

 

And a bear hug, clearly for all to see, performed inside the penalty zone by 2 defenders at the same time over the same opponent in the middle of the penalty zone, in a DOGSO situation, is not "red-card" worthy?


Sorry man, I didn't want to say nothing over it before, when 2 teams of diferent confeds were playing to not make of it an issue as it being an attempt to favour teams from one Confed in relation to the other, but this match (Serbia vs. Switzerland), was between 2 teams from the same Confed (Uefa). So nothing of that can be said now.


Oh, and I also forget to mention the "dives" that even with use of VAR, afterwards go out with out any sort of sanction being issued (as today's Neymar dive in the match played earlier).

 

Damn you Shaq, you didn't play like that for Stoke. It was a great game though, like a really good EPL game but with much bigger stakes.

 

You answered your own question. VAR flags the center ref only if it is a clear and obvious missed call that 95 out of 100 referees would say was a blown call. Close calls by definition are ones the VAR should not flag for the center ref

 

Except that Neymar didn’t dive. There was actual contact. Not enough to constitute a foul, but still contact.

 

better to have controversies with doubts over things not getting called, to have absolute certainty that the controversies, on purpose, weren't dealt with.

 

I don't know what "on purpose" means. It doesn't mean anything different than it did before VAR. Until we have artificial intelligence, the calls will still be made by human beings, which means there will be subjectivity.

Another thing to consider is that referees are instructed to do their best in moving the game along, otherwise they get blamed for too many VAR interruptions.

My advice is to be patient with this system. The refs are still learning how to manage the process in game time situations. As far as I can tell, the amount of bad calls have already been decreased by more than 50%. It's unrealistic to expect 100% perfection so soon.