To me that edge he had with the conditioning he was receiving in Germany seemed to give him an edge over other Mexican players and it showed on field particulary that Honduras game (from the earlier qualifying stage)but now he's come back that edge has evaporated and now he's just a very smart player for his club but not enough to merit anymore call-ups once the qualifying situation gets sorted out. I still give merit that the Bundesliga is still top 4 and that Pavel's style of play was totally complimentary to the style of the league. Look at Vicente Sanchez, he was a monster in the MFL, way better in every respect than Pavel at the time and what has he done in Germany so far? Yeah I know one example but still
Keep in mind that Pavel is tied with Borgetti for the most goals scored for Mexico during the 2010 WC Qualifiers. Very sad that those two are our top scorers, hell Borgetti hasn't had a callup in two rounds......we really suck at scoring and that's what really kills us at the end of the day.
Pardo deberia ser titular indiscutible vuelvan a ver el partido contra Argetnica(WC06) sale pavel se nos termina la media cancha y el balon parado acaso quien fue el que puso el centro para gol? Torrado>>>>>Leandro
Tengo ese partido completo, tu lo tienes? lo unico que se perdio es el balon parado, Gonzalo Pineda mas que iso su trabajo a la defensiva y ofensiva de la media cancha. Y a balon parado, Ramon Morales ahi estaba. Ademas, no puedes decir que es titular indescutible si eso fue hace 3 anos.
He showed nothing special as far as conditioning goes in that game against honduras. I dont see his Intelegence at the club level either .. Did he play against chivas? ( Im being serious, I dont remember him in there at all.)
entonces con quien lo remplasarias? PArdo tiene mejor precision al balon parado que Morales el primer gol contra Iran quien lo puso? el gol contra Argentina tambien Torrado debe ser titular
Tiros a porteria, Pavel con la derecha esta mas o menos al nivel que Ramon con la zurda. Donde es bastante superior Pavel es en centros (de tiro libre).
Entonces con quien lo remplasaria? Igual buscamos a hace 3 anos, sin quitarle nada de merito a esas jugadas, eran de la mente de la volpe y no de pardo. Mucha gente se olvida de rafa marquez de Contension , Y su juego de balon parado. Ese es my jugador Ideal. Amaury ponce si llega a jugar bien juego tras juego es Ideal a balon parado. Pero Chivas no juega bien Y se nota que el por eso no juega bien.
I've been thinking he was finished for some time now,and having watched Amierdica vs. San Luis a couple minutes ago confirmed it , hes so old and slow you forget hes even on the pitch,I think people just dont want to let him go because of his name just like Osorio,Salcido,but seriously calling him back is like wanting Ramon Ramirez back in the line-up, based on nothing but him being your favorite childhood player. Oh and for the record I still think Ramirez has got it in him.
Hey, that's true. Pineda should be considered. He played a lot under Lavolpe, and some under Sanchez. Remember that one penalty kick he made? He was the talk of the town for a week, even had an interview alongside Lavolpe because of his awesome kick. And he would make a kickass replacement for Torrado. Pardo is a washed up has-been. Siempre fue creido. He dissed Guille (lol) and isn't it true that Temoc and Pardo don't get along? Sheeet, an enemy of the Emperor is an enemy of mine! Pardo es lento y acabado en los juegos, se ve muy cansado he's the past and he's lame he's just not the same what sucks: his replacement is Torrado.
dude just let it go, they dont have the love for mexico. Fawk them, your acting like they are great or will be great, we can't see the future. E. Castillo is nothing more then a cholo luser toothpick
You need to get off that chiva-cola your drinking man. Pineda was good...when he was at Pumas. Now however, hes just as mediocre as Pardo. Mexico truly needs another young holding mid
Pavel >>>Torrado Torrado has garbage passing ser peleonero y ser aguerrido no significa calidad pero tecnico solo hay uno y son gustos i personally think Pavel is better than torrado and castro
It's too bad Jose Francisco Torres didn't get called up sooner. I think the reason why people hate Edgar Castillo so much, but not Torres is two-fold. 1st. Edgar Castillo already wore the shirt once. Then turned his back on it. Low as fuk. 2nd. Jose Torres never got called up to Mexico, and when the US started calling him up, he said so himself that he was hoping Mexico would have done it first, but didn't. It was too late by then. And by the looks of it, Jose Torres would've been an awesome DM replacing Torres now or in the future. He has speed, is a better passer and is generally a better technical player than Torrado is. It sucks now for him that he may or may not see any action for the US. But FAK Castillo!
Torres is more of an attacking player..doesn't luna play contención?If he does he should have called.
Luna no se contencion natural..he is now though but with an attacking attitude Pavel is more attacking than defensive at America while villa was there he was usually the "torrado" of sorts
last nights america game just prooved this guy can't give no more. i watched him all game to make a judgement. thanks for helping us get to the world cup 2006 and making us look good in the confeds. But your time is over, we wont forget.
This is the right thing to say. Too many people forget what some players produced for the team and bash them like crazy.
If Bofo would show more effort i think he could have become a great player. I was watching some old games of his and he can be a creative player.