Patriotic posters from the Ministry of Homeland Security

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by otto, Mar 16, 2003.

  1. otto

    otto New Member

    Jun 24, 2002
    The Belly of the Beast
  2. otto

    otto New Member

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    The Belly of the Beast
  3. otto

    otto New Member

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    The Belly of the Beast
  4. otto

    otto New Member

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    The Belly of the Beast
  5. otto

    otto New Member

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  6. otto

    otto New Member

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  7. otto

    otto New Member

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  8. otto

    otto New Member

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    The Belly of the Beast
  9. eric_appleby

    eric_appleby Member+

    Jun 11, 1999
    Down East
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. accion

    accion Member

    Nov 28, 1998
    dfw, texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
  11. otto

    otto New Member

    Jun 24, 2002
    The Belly of the Beast
  12. otto

    otto New Member

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  13. otto

    otto New Member

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  14. otto

    otto New Member

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  15. otto

    otto New Member

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  16. otto

    otto New Member

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    The Belly of the Beast
  17. otto

    otto New Member

    Jun 24, 2002
    The Belly of the Beast
  18. accion

    accion Member

    Nov 28, 1998
    dfw, texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    what is your solution otto? i dont want war i dont want my friends to die, i dont want any innocnet people to die. but everyday innocent people die in iraq, i think that should stop, one way or another. the sooner it stops the better.
     
  19. otto

    otto New Member

    Jun 24, 2002
    The Belly of the Beast
    Let me ask you this. Is Iraq the only "evil" that we should be concerned about, or even any one of the so-called "axis of evil" countries? And even if they were (which is definitely not true) do you think that the United States - which is the only country to ever use nuclear weapons in war and was convicted in 1986 of being a war criminal - should have any pretense of moral superiority or a say in what to do about it? Look it up. The World Court convicted the US for its crimes committed in Nicaragua in '83 and '84. They insisted that the US face the music, and the US government refused. And the only reason that no one could enforce the decision that the World Court came to is because the US is currently the foremost superpower in the world.

    The United States was founded on a genocide, that of Native Americans, and on an institution, slavery, which was based on race and, because it led to deprivation, death and murder, was also of the nature of a genocide. Any view of American history which does not acknowledge this leaves us bereft of any ability to judge the actions of others.

    Solutions don't come easy but Bush's warmongering sure as hell ain't even remotely close to one.
     
  20. Nate505

    Nate505 Member

    Feb 10, 2002
    Colorado
    Oh god, another self-loating liberal.....are you a Universal sockpuppet?
     
  21. mannyfreshstunna

    mannyfreshstunna New Member

    Feb 7, 2003
    Naperville, no less
    Simply mindblowing. You know, i don't know where you learned your US history kid. Founded on genocide eh? You want to show me where we engineered the systematic killing of all Native Americans? People are under the impression we came here, lined up all of the natives and shot them. In reality, the Native American tribes across America were waging terrible wars against each other for quite some time, severely curbing their populations. Another major reason for their demise was the unfortunate introduction of smallpox to the New World. How many people, both Native American and European died from smallpox? Smallpox is the worst killer of all time, claiming i believe 70 million lives. Now I'm not saying that the colonists were innocent because they arn't. A lot of acts they commited were atrocious.But if you're under the impression that cavalry warfare exterminated a race then you're delusional. Next, in case you didn't notice, war was fought here over slavery. It costed more lives then you know. Now you can theorize all you want about the true cause of the civil war, but it was slavery. The Procolamation proved it because Lincoln didn't have to issue it. Slavery was abolished in the supposedly "evil" United States after its victory. And Bush is no warmonger. I think people just like throwing that term around. A warmonger would simply attack Iraq back on Sep 12. 2001 for the fun of it. But a warmonger would not go through 6 months of arduous debate at the UN after a stern resolution was unanimously passed. A warmonger would not seek a second, unnecessary resolution. The only reason we are getting the slightest of cooperation from Iraq is becuase we have the credible military force in the region. You want Bush to pull the military out and see how well the inspections go? The reason the previous 16 resolutions failed is because it lacked a credible threat. Saddam Hussein doesn't listen to economic santions, or international will. He has shown the only thing he listens to and respects is the US military. So stop trying to be this self proclaimed moral crusader who abhores the evil US and realize no country has donated more in foriegn aid services. Granted, we have done some things i regret, but every country on earth has its inproprieties. But no country has liberated more people from tyranny, and no country has the opportunities this one has offered. That's why my relatives moved here in the 20's and 1930's respectively. I can't believe you waste your time making the good guy look bad. For what? You want to look at evil places go look elsewhere in history and the present day. I guess Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, Red China, Cambodia, Myanmar, Serbia,the Soviet Bloc gov'ts, the Ottoman Empire,North Korea, and Rwanda (to name a few) escape your memory.
     
  22. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    par·a·graph ( P )

    A distinct division of written or printed matter that begins on a new, usually indented line, consists of one or more sentences, and typically deals with a single thought or topic or quotes one speaker's continuous words.
     
  23. mannyfreshstunna

    mannyfreshstunna New Member

    Feb 7, 2003
    Naperville, no less
    Simply mindblowing. You know, i don't know where you learned your US history kid. Founded on genocide eh? You want to show me where we engineered the systematic killing of all Native Americans? People are under the impression we came here, lined up all of the natives and shot them.

    In reality, the Native American tribes across America were waging terrible wars against each other for quite some time, severely curbing their populations. Another major reason for their demise was the unfortunate introduction of smallpox to the New World. How many people, both Native American and European died from smallpox? Smallpox is the worst killer of all time, claiming i believe 70 million lives. Now I'm not saying that the colonists were innocent because they arn't. A lot of acts they commited were atrocious.But if you're under the impression that cavalry warfare exterminated a race then you're delusional.


    Next, in case you didn't notice, war was fought here over slavery. It costed more lives then you know. Now you can theorize all you want about the true cause of the civil war, but it was slavery. The Procolamation proved it because Lincoln didn't have to issue it. Slavery was abolished in the supposedly "evil" United States after its victory.


    And Bush is no warmonger. I think people just like throwing that term around. A warmonger would simply attack Iraq back on Sep 12. 2001 for the fun of it. But a warmonger would not go through 6 months of arduous debate at the UN after a stern resolution was unanimously passed. A warmonger would not seek a second, unnecessary resolution. The only reason we are getting the slightest of cooperation from Iraq is becuase we have the credible military force in the region. You want Bush to pull the military out and see how well the inspections go? The reason the previous 16 resolutions failed is because it lacked a credible threat. Saddam Hussein doesn't listen to economic santions, or international will. He has shown the only thing he listens to and respects is the US military.

    So stop trying to be this self proclaimed moral crusader who abhores the evil US and realize no country has donated more in foriegn aid services. Granted, we have done some things i regret, but every country on earth has its inproprieties. But no country has liberated more people from tyranny, and no country has the opportunities this one has offered. That's why my relatives moved here in the 20's and 1930's respectively. I can't believe you waste your time making the good guy look bad. For what? You want to look at evil places go look elsewhere in history and the present day. I guess Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, Red China, Cambodia, Myanmar, Serbia,the Soviet Bloc gov'ts, the Ottoman Empire,North Korea, and Rwanda (to name a few) escape your memory.
     
  24. SJFC4ever

    SJFC4ever New Member

    May 12, 2000
    Edinburgh


    He is only doing that because his principal ally (Blair) made going to the UN a condition of their support. Bush didn't go to the UN out of the kindness of his heart.



    I agree, and no. But because the military's presence is having a clear effect on Saddam's behaviour, this should continue until the job (disarmament) is done. If the job can't be done, then war should be waged. But not before this.
     
  25. -cman-

    -cman- New Member

    Apr 2, 2001
    Clinton, Iowa
    Nice posters. Did you do them?
     

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