Passing Mastermind to Tactical Maestro – The Xabi Alonso Era Begins

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  1. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    Real Madrid
    I mean, anyone throwing a name like Cesc in the mix when we have Xabi leading the team is not being serious. If anything, if we end up sacking Xabi then that's it in terms of young and talented coaches. Any up and coming coach that takes his career seriously should stay far away from the Real Madrid job, which is arguably the most toxic job in the world.
     
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  2. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Pool will get Xabi as soon as he's available and will give him couple of years at least. Our spoiled brats complain about Xabi's personality when he's a saint compared to Mou, Conte, Tuchel etc.
     
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  3. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Camavinga, Huijsen expected to be unavailable against City. And we are leaking Xabi will be sacked if we don't win this game? Pathetic.

    I see bad coaching options being available so it will be the next president who will bring in culture changing coach 2006 Capello. Florentino will also go next season with current culture being set.
     
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  4. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    So here we are, we play rubbish and it's the players fault alone, divas, spoiled brats and the rest, Bayern Leverkusen is not Madrid, i've heard over and over that La Liga is stronger than the Bundesliga, it was always going to be a whole other challenge for Xabi at Madrid, i said so from the start, system oriented tactician or not, no matter who was bought who stayed who was the president ..... none of that.

    In all my time supporting this team the idea was that the coach had to win, no matter what, it has always been that way and we may yet win trophies this season but managers have come and gone in months even, Xabi is a sentimental favourite but he has to win or at least get the team to play decent football more consistently, he won't get years to do that

    You can blame all the players all you like but these guys have performed before, some for more than one manager, the players have to accept the blame but that is shared with Xabi, it's as simple as that for me, he's the coach, the buck normally stops there.... except this time, both he and the players have to find a way to improve what we are witnessing
     
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  5. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    Xabi will be a successful manager. The question is will it be here or Liverpool.

    We’ve seen how Man U catered to the players and look at how rotten the club is. I’m afraid we’re heading to the same destination.
     
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  6. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    The issue I take is the same core of players basically mailed it in for the best man manager of all time last season. And now here they are can’t be arsed to play with any effort unless it suits them.

    Xabi had some fault, no doubt. But what coach do we bring in that will do any better with this group of entitled players?
     
  7. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    The positive side to that is we have Socios who can oust the sitting president and board. Man U fans can’t do that.
     
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  8. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    If it comes to that, we’d have to be really bad. The last season of Caulderon was so bleak.
     
  9. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    Socios have pressured Perez into resigning before, they’d have no issue doing it again if they feel the club is going in the wrong direction, which at the moment, it is.
     
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  10. robertocarlos3

    robertocarlos3 Member+

    Jan 9, 2012
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    They also don’t have real power. Perez won’t leave u less he himself decides to leave.
     
  11. robertocarlos3

    robertocarlos3 Member+

    Jan 9, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    The stupidly of thinking any coach can come here next week and fix things…
    Klopp will bench Vinicius in the middle of the 2nd game that he’ll see him walking on the pitch. Not to mention he’ll never get total control like in Pool.
    there is a rotten apple in this squad and we need to get rid it fast or we will replace another coach in the summer.
     
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  12. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    --other--
    He's old and weak. Will resign with less pressure than 2006 when tens of thousands of Madrid fans in the city turn against you. Believe laws still allows no confidence move against the board for socios with enough signatures as well.

    But 78 year Florentino won't wait to that if team is sucking for 3 seasons (2024-27) and he's being blamed for worst Madrid trophy drought since 1950 like 2003-06.
     
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  13. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    That’s not true. Socios can vote to oust the sitting president through a no-confidence motion but is around 10% of members required to sign put it in motion.

    The club verifies and a referendum is cast at the ballots. It needs a majority to oust the president and if passed, the president is removed by laws of the club and elections are called.

    TL;DR Perez won’t have a say if a majorly case a vote of no confidence and want his removal.
     
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  14. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
    London
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    This doesn’t get mentioned enough imo.

    Perez was in the conference room looking genuinely distraught when Zidane announced his resignations. But who tf in the club pulled that shit on Zidane of all people? Bizarre.

    We lucked out with Carlo’s second stint otherwise this incident would be mentioned more.
     
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  15. RMrules

    RMrules Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 12, 2019
    So the club is waiting for Haaland,Doku etc to put 5 past Tibo to sack him ?What is the point?He should have been sacked weeks ago,this doesnt work and wont work it is over ,just like it was with Benitez and Lopetegui

    Just like last season when we had to sack Carlo when we still had a chance for a change a chance to win anything....we didnt ,repeating the same mistake
     
  16. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    And after 3 days you'd ask for the interim coach to be sacked 'cos this team doesn't have the talent to win things on its own. Change for worse will only please those who want constant change.
     
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  17. robertocarlos3

    robertocarlos3 Member+

    Jan 9, 2012
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    Real Madrid
    What I meant is that most of the socios are old skool and it will take a lot more than some bad results to rile up and fire Perez. were 1.5 years from a double ffs.
     
  18. SayWhatIWant

    SayWhatIWant Member+

    Jan 10, 2015
    CWC was never a barometer for judging anything. Nobody looks at a summer game and draws the conclusion "sublime football". No disrespect intended.
    I did not back the Carlo sack for Xabi. Although I understand the standard of getting rid of a coach after a bad/trophyless season - you can't replace an all-time coach with Xabi. Makes no sense.
    The issue was always and will always be a squad that cannot compete for the biggest trophy.
    You put anybody in the drivers' seat, no starting 11 is winning the UCL.
     
  19. Raul-7

    Raul-7 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 17, 2006
    He is the epitome of the modern Real Madrid bandwagon-fan; whenever something goes south they want a brand new starting 11, new manager, new stadium, etc. No long-term vision whatsoever.

    It was not a barometer; but the team at least put in the effort compared to what we see now. And we won 13 out of the first 14 games of the season; we were doing really well.

    https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2025/12/08/6936eeb6ca4741be248b456d.html

    Certain players simply have other agendas, don't take their careers seriously, or are simply burned out.

    We need another summer to clear out the deadweight and strengthen key areas [CB and midfield].
     
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  20. RMrules

    RMrules Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 12, 2019
    Xabi was supposed to be the long term vision of the club and the players made him their bitch ...whos fault is that ?
     
  21. Raul-7

    Raul-7 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 17, 2006
    It's the players' fault. Why do they play half-heartily every match except for a few [Militao, Tchouameni, etc.]? He's still 6 months in and he is nothing like Benetiz, Camacho, Lopetegui, etc.

    We need to give him 2 seasons to get this team cleaned up; we can't resort to our old tricks of firing a manager without give them more than a full season. We will relive the 2003-2006 era.
     
  22. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
     
  23. arcane

    arcane Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    Which was a fatal mistake. He isnt Carlo.

    And this all went downhill the moment he blinked.
     
  24. arcane

    arcane Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    I only wish Jose was still the Mourinho of old. Sadly looks like he's well past it.

    These goup of players are too stuck in their ways and would rather have the manager their puppet on a string.
     
  25. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    If the entire squad can supposedly overpower your tactical plan, your authority wasn’t built in the first place. Elite dressing rooms test coaches all the time. The strong ones survive it. the weak ones become inspirational Ted talks on leadership.

    Vision requires, you know,, an actual structure, nonschizophrenic tactics and a coach who doesn’t lose the dressing room thirty minutes into a crisis.
     

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