Passing Mastermind to Tactical Maestro – The Xabi Alonso Era Begins

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  1. robertocarlos3

    robertocarlos3 Member+

    Jan 9, 2012
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    the difference is that these players don't ask for a new contract or don't ask for a new contract with ludicrous numbers.
     
  2. Lyra

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    Players ask for new contracts because wages across the market have inflated. Asking for 30 million is a negotiation opener.Clubs either meet it, negotiate or move on. that’s how business works. Vini’s case is metrics and value, top creator in the UCL, good attacking output second to Mbappe, penalty magnet, huge commercial pull. That combination gives him leverage most squad players don’t have.
    If you want a competitive squad we've to recognise that talent comes with a market price
     
  3. Saeta Rubia

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  4. 4x4s

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    I'm conflicted on this because the clubs, ours being at the forefront with many others, love using every predatory method to extract as much as possible from their customers (also affectionately labeled "fans").

    I can't complain too much about a player trying to extort a company that tries to extort it's customers.
     
  5. Lyra

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  6. 4x4s

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    Sharing glory is easy, it's when the team doesn't win where people show what they are made of, top to bottom. This is also where the club has been at it's worst lately, awful in defeat.
     
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  7. Hsain85

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    The media in Madrid is full of shit.
     
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  8. Raul-7

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    Regardless he deserves 2 full seasons; we need continuity and a long-term vision. If the board does get rid of him it will only embolden the bad actors within the squad.
     
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  9. Saeta Rubia

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    May 28, 2010
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    Xabi about Joan Martinez inclusion in the squad list against Celta:

    "Joan has been called up, and if we need him, he's ready. And it won't just be for the short term, for the upcoming matches; there will be others where he'll also be called up."
     
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  10. fierro

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    Jan 30, 2007
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    So by December with the team 4 points behind Barca, you've already decided he "deserves" and second full season no questions asked because "reasons".


    Carlo would still be manager if the club didn't consider the end of season results (title v. no titles) in it's determination of whether or not to continue with or fire the manager.



    All I'm reading from your post is it was a mistake to fire Carlo and hire Xabi, so let's bring back Carlo!
     
  11. Saeta Rubia

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    *4 points behind Barca with a game in hand which is at home against Celta.
     
  12. fierro

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    Ah so if we win that game and tie Barca on the available points for the remainder of the season, do we get the "only 4 points behind Barca with a game in hand" Trophy?
     
  13. Saeta Rubia

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    May 28, 2010
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    What won't happen is Barca playing 38 games and RM only 37. But then again being disingenuous is your brand and my mistake for taking the bait. :D
     
  14. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
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    Hook, line aaaand sinker.



    In case you missed the point, the point being Real Madrid are behind on points and having a game in hand does nothing to remedy that.

    RM would need play an extra 39th game advantage over Barca to win the league, if both teams win the rest of their games currently on the schedule. No it isn't fancy, ivy league math.
     
  15. RMrules

    RMrules Member+

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    Aug 12, 2019
    I love the thread title

    Nobody can pass in this team and he doesn't teach then anything,tactics maestro...what tactics

    Sack
     
  16. Raul-7

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    Aug 17, 2006
    You go coach them...
     
  17. RMrules

    RMrules Member+

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    Aug 12, 2019
    I will not coach them I WILL BENCH them
     
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  18. Aensensen

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    Jun 10, 2011
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    :cry: I was hopeful when making that title...

    It's not panning out so great at the moment :(
     
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  19. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

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    Mar 21, 2013
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    Unfortunately, even though this isn't Xabi's fault, he's gonna get the axe just like Carlo did. Board will bring on another waiter/Benitez as the next scapegoat for their piss poor squad planning. But hey! At least Florentino got Mbappe!
     
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  20. Saeta Rubia

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    May 28, 2010
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    Want a journo to ask Xabi about lack of playmaking when Huijsen or Trent isn't available. Current midfield options can't do that.

    And having to depend on playmaking from defense itself instead of a midfielder is so restrictive for the coach even if Huijsen and/or Trent were healthy.

    Sack the coach. But winning consistently will be hard without a playmaker in the squad. 20009-2024 had Xabi, Kroos, Modric. Three of the best in history. Now we don't even have a starting quality one.
     
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  21. Saeta Rubia

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    Thanks for Mbappe else this team would have 0 reliable scorers. Sadly he can only carry so much when there's no playmaker in midfield and even options from deep like Huijsen and Trent aren't available.
     
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  22. Raul-7

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    Aug 17, 2006
    If they sack him; it will reveal that they learned nothing from the past. The other concern is that 50% of Real Madrid fans only support them for the brand [best club in the World] - they are the loudest to whine, complain, and throw the coach under the bus when things gets rough.
     
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  23. AppleBob86

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    Jan 11, 2018
    You mean when half the forum did the same thing to Carlo last season, despite winning a league and CL?

    You don’t know what you have until it’s gone.
     
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  24. Saeta Rubia

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    #2274 Saeta Rubia, Dec 7, 2025
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2025
    Right approach would be to get a midfield playmaker in January and support Xabi rather than throw the season away with interim.

    Calderon learnt that lesson from Florentino and backed Capello with January signings albeit youngsters to fix some holes.

    But Florentino never showed that in similar situation so it's giving me 2003-06 vibes. Some random interim will replace Xabi and midfield flaw won't be addressed.
     
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  25. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Applies for Kroos. Carlo team mostly played donkey football last season with that midfield flaw not being addressed. At least defense issues are several injuries rather than not having any creative midfielder in the squad itself.
     
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