Passing Mastermind to Tactical Maestro – The Xabi Alonso Era Begins

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  1. Ssr9

    Ssr9 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Nov 10, 2008
    Sydney
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    Exactly, people are even counting the PSG loss in the CWC after like 2 weeks in charge as evidence to the fact that he sucks at big games lol... It's very silly. This team is already miles better than last season's after just 3 months in the season. Let the man work...
     
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  2. Galatico

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    Real Madrid
    United States
    Aug 15, 2019
    I agree. We don't have enough of a sample size to make that claim.

    What happened at Anfield was unfortunate. The lads will learn from it, regroup and come back stronger.
     
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  3. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    We spent over 160 mil. Euro this summer.
     
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  4. petros93

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    Real Madrid
    Greece
    May 27, 2017
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    Greece
    I don't think it's a Xabi issue but a players issue. The same issues with certain players we saw last year we see them this year also.

    The only difference from last year is the defense is improved as we spent a lot of money and somehow Militao came back as if nothing happened.
     
  5. MaxY

    MaxY Member+

    May 24, 2016
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    We also spent 361.3 mil in summer 19/20. 214 on Hazard, Jovic and Reinier.
     
  6. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
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    We bought those players because the manager wanted them, good examples of why not to go overboard buying and selling players to fit a particular manager's "system" - managers don't last long but we were stuck with the players.


    Imagine selling Vini and Camavinga, etc., becuase Xabi doesn't think he needs them or is not using them then a year later end up with a manager that wants a proper #9 instead of Mbappe, wants traditional wingers that put in crosses and track back and doesn't use a DM so he benches Tchoumeni and asks for deep lying playmaker that Fed is supposed to be transitioning into but can't because the RB. Oh yeah and maybe the manager doesn't like wingbacks so he asks for replacements for Trent and Carreras.
     
  7. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Same people on the trigger by the way. Just so we don't pretend like we're 10/10 in signing players
     
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  8. laundromat

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    Jul 20, 2014
    Feels like every game now is just another countdown till the next big team the club faces. Being top of the table is nice but watching the team lose convincingly in two of its big tests really puts things into perspective.

    There's a sense that the club should easily run away with the league but then go out in the quarters of the UCL to some BS. It's not an unfamiliar feeling but Carlo being such a master of the dark arts really kept you believing no matter what.
     
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  9. Bear Crotch

    Bear Crotch Member+

    Jan 2, 2008
    Ohio, United States
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    Spain
    In fairness, we're beating who we should be able to beat and losing to who we should be losing to.
     
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  10. arcane

    arcane Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    Philippines
    If it results in a league trophy, so what?

    Would you rather beat top team an lose more times to middle and bottom teams and lose La Liga that way?
     
  11. Galatico

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    United States
    Aug 15, 2019
    I take things one game at a time, and the El Clasico we won was encouraging (although we could've been better). It's too early to draw conclusions.

    The team has a long way to go before they'll be at the top in the CL again which is normal given all the experience we've lost. It's going to be a journey. I'm excited for it.
     
  12. Galatico

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    Aug 15, 2019
    We'll get Atleti back for that loss on the road. We can beat them.
     
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  13. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    I heard Clasico was the big test pre match. Now sounds like Atleti was the big test since we lost and Barca game is treated as less so since we won. Some here feared we'd get battered by Barca again couple of weeks back.
     
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  14. Saeta Rubia

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    May 28, 2010
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    But Atleti won't be a big test if we end up beating them at Bernabeu. Just like upcoming Man City game.

    Also Barca are a much bigger team when it comes to La Liga than Atleti who are contenders maybe once in a decade.
     
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  15. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    I fi recall correctly every Spanish team lost in the CL this week. I definitely feel like the League got a lot weaker around the middle to lower tier of the table.
     
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  16. Saeta Rubia

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    May 28, 2010
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    Villarreal are doing well in La Liga yet struggling in CL. They used to do reall well in Europe under Emery. Then again, PL hasn't had a CL finalist in last two seasons despite all the riches. I think there's no CL superteam right now and 5-6 teams have legit shot of winning depending on the form in business end of the season.
     
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  17. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Which supports the theory that the domestic competition got worse.Not even saying this from a Real Madrid perspective, it's just that at the moment, second division players in England earn more than La Liga players. It's in their own interest to leave.

    There's no "well akshually" out of this. It's clear that the League is getting worse in standout talent, especially as the big clubs have abandoned the idea to buy young players and straight poach them out of their youth clubs.
     
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  18. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    There's a huge talent drain for 17 La Liga clubs. Villarreal end up selling to the likes of Everton even.

    Dunno for how long it's sustainable but many of those clubs still compete against RM/Barca by reinvesting well.

    Most of those clubs earn a billion less than RM every season yet La Liga has never been a walk in the park for us.
     
  19. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Yeah, my point isn't that we're winning domestically because the opponents are not good, I feel like there's a lot that comes together for it, but i definitely see our football working better with opponents from our own backyard than outside of it, Barca traditionally did the same for a long time.
     
  20. Galatico

    Galatico Member+

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    Aug 15, 2019
    Yup. They were fear posting for weeks about how we'd get blown out lol
     
  21. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    So how does this correlate with this "Rayo will be a big test!" stuff? Vinicius drives a car with an insurance plan as high as the most expensive Rayo player. That's arguably even worse.
     
  22. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Not a test on paper but they have been our bogey team away from home. RM hasn't beaten Rayo in last 3 visits there. 1 defeat and 2 draws.
     
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  23. Doni

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    Dec 4, 2010
    London
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    Real Madrid
    Since Rayo have been promoted in 2017/18, we have won 5, drawn 3 and lost 2 against them. None of our wins have been by more than one goal either, which is very different to our record prior to them being relegated in 2015/16 when we used to beat them by large margins often.

    They’re over performing against us in the last 7 years overall.

    We need a better performance than the bullshit we were treated to in Liverpool where we looked clueless when we had and didn’t have the ball.
     
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  24. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    What a joke really. Blowing up Windmills like Don Quixotte. "This is a mighty opponent".
     
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  25. Ahmadi8

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    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
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    Real Madrid
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    Bahrain
    To be honest, if we beat Liverpool we'd have people down play it and say they've been terrible domestically. Not a real test.
     

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