Passing Mastermind to Tactical Maestro – The Xabi Alonso Era Begins

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  1. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Maybe not, but it might be the easiest problem to fix.

    It's obvious that he lost the team a long time ago, whether the club assisted in that with their decisions is another discussion, but he was clearly just surviving at this point and the way the team lined u VS Barca practically abandoned everything he had promised to do.
     
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  2. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Oh no.
     
  3. Shay Z

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    Jan 3, 2007
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    Underwhelming coach and personality with especially weak leadership qualities. Not what I thought. I’m disappointed in him as much as I am with my club.

    With no injuries he probably survives the first year and then who knows. Best of luck to him. Wish things had gone differently.
     
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  4. dooda

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    Jun 8, 2005
    Kuwait
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    Reminds me of a previous hire in my previous company. Came in with a great track record having implemented exactly what we wanted in two other places. However was a bit young but got the job due to his track record. Once he was in, was shocked by the culture in place and the office politics, he absolutely folded within 2 months and just basically dragged his feet until he was asked to leave 6 months in which he was more than happy to do.

    Whenever someone asks me about this guy I always say - Techinically hes exactly what we needed - he just didn't have the personality or experience to survive here. In another universe with more support I'm sure both would have had a better chance at succeeding.
     
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  5. Halycon

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    Aug 24, 2010
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    All these thank you mister posts by the players, we learned so much from you mister, good luck mister, disgust me. If you gave a shit about ‘mister’, you would have shown that on the pitch.

    At least be genuine, say i’m glad you left mister or don’t bother posting at all, fcking rats.
     
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  6. .halamadrid2.

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    Nov 5, 2010
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    https://www.marca.com/futbol/real-m...ar-salida-mutuo-acuerdo-xabi-alons-video.html

    Absolute shitshow. So embarrassing. Can only imagine the reaction here if that was Vini :ROFLMAO:

    Anyways good luck wherever you go. Maybe a smaller team for a good few seasons is the way to go. RM hot seat was too soon for him which is probably rhe most demanding position in the world. We really should never have sacked Carlo. Maybe we can get him back after the WC.
     
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  7. AppleBob86

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    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    Poll up on Marca

    48% blame the president / board
    46% blame the players
    6% blame the coach

    Pretty telling where the problem lies.

    Not to mention #FlorentinoDimision (#FlorentinoResign) is trending today
     
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  8. Lyra

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    Apr 29, 2013
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    Real Madrid will only pay Xabi Alonso his salary for THIS season, they won't pay his whole 3-year contract.

    They included a clause in his deal that said that if he's fired in the 1st year, he'll only be paid for that year. @COPE
     
  9. arcane

    arcane Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    If true, probably the reason why he was let go this early.

    Good luck with him. I have a feeling he might be back after several years once he gets more coaching creds and trophies. Given he has success elsewhere of course, probably @ Liverpool
     
  10. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    Completely possible when we have a president with a clear sporting project and a core of players that have matured. I don’t think Xabi will work with Perez again.
     
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  11. rhexis07

    rhexis07 Member+

    Jan 24, 2007
    Singapore
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    Real Madrid
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    Spain
    Man.. Still can't get over the fact that all of these happened so quickly.

    Dude really loved Real Madrid. I remember how emotional he was when we won La Decima.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uTxyMTHi0z8

    So, so sad that this relationship turned out so bad... I hope he gets another chance some time in the future.
     
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  12. benny_madridista

    Real Madrid
    Nov 30, 2020
    It's not anger at all, just straight up facts.
     
  13. petros93

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    Greece
    May 27, 2017
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    Greece
    I mean Arbeloa loves Real Madrid too. I do get the criticism for the players and the board but I'm really baffled by the blind support for Xabi. He has shown nothing in the 6 months he was with us, didn't show to have the character needed for our bench and his relationship with players wasn't very good and either you like it or not this is important. The same thing happened with the beloved team that won 4 ucls in 5 years. So yes we can criticize the players, but you have to criticize the coach for not being able to win them over.

    That being said with how everything went down we look like a joke now and the comments in this situation are all negative towards us by neutrals etc.
     
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  14. benny_madridista

    Real Madrid
    Nov 30, 2020
    I have the receipts:
     
  15. Lyra

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    Apr 29, 2013
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    Honestly hilarious watching people act like the squad has transformed into some dystopian league of “spoiled brats”. The way that phrase gets thrown around, you’d think Vini and co are storming the bernabeu gates demanding diplomatic immunity and a private jet per goal. Chill.it’s just a group of elite athletes who expect the club to match their ambition.

    That label also always seems to land on the players who actually carry the club. The ones who run themselves into the ground.


    JUST IN: Xabi Alonso had a BAD relationship with MULTPLE PLAYERS.
    The identity of these players will become clearer over the next few games, because the change in their attitude on the pitch will be noticeable.
    @MatteMoretto



    If you walk into a team filled with worldclass talent and your biggest achievement is creating a locker room that feels like a group project where no one likes the leader, that’s never on the group. That’s on the leader.

    The players are fine. The football will be fine.
    The only thing that wasn’t fine was the fit.
     
  16. madridismo

    madridismo Member+

    Feb 28, 2007
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    I can’t tell if you’re being serious here. These guys were spoiled brats under Carlo too. I’m guessing you feel that’s on the leader as well? The most decorated coach of all time? :cry:
     
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  17. Lyra

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    Apr 29, 2013
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    Madrid isn’t a rehab clinic for sensitive tacticians. it’s a furnace.
    Carlo didn’t lose the room. He absorbed tit instead. He let them brats cook, managed egos without moralizing every flareup, picked his battles, making up lies and walked out with multiple silverwears.

    If you think the answer to players are demanding and intense is punish them until they obey, good luck hiring a coach here. You don’t tame madrid’s dressing room, you conduct it.
     
  18. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    There's a world where both our entire club structure is based off people with cartoon villain sized egos, and where Xabi Alonso simply wasn't good enough.

    I feel like the hire was based on his name and how he looks in a suit more than what he would do or what he was qualified to do.

    The classic "sexy hire". Kovac to Bayern was the exact same thing. People warned both us and Xabi about certain differences between Leverkusen and Madrid but people simply didn't want to listen.

    We didn't do a proper search. We didn't look at multiple candidates. We just locked in on one guy and it ended up going bad.
     
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  19. Ssr9

    Ssr9 Member+

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    Nov 10, 2008
    Sydney
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    Mali
    I hate the move. That being said, when you are put in a leadership position, one of the main requirements is be able motivate the troops and have them rally around your vision. He wasn't able able to do that. No matter what the reasons are for that (player divas and lack of support from above etc), that is a critical failure.

    I still would have kept him till at least the end of the season.
     
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  20. Ssr9

    Ssr9 Member+

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    Nov 10, 2008
    Sydney
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    good point about conducting rather than taming. Maybe this was a bit early for Xabi in his career.

    He might return one day. The relationship ended with this presidency, not the club.
     
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  21. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Terrible process all around.

    Bad hire. Bad management (the Vinicius Clasico thing was pathetic on the club), and bad firing.

    The people that look bad in this are the players and the omnipresent President that probably felt extremely embarrassed in front of all his big multi million sponsors. This happened with Saleh and the New York Jets, the team lost the game in London and the owner had a VIP box full of political and business figures and felt so ashamed he reacted out of anger.
     
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  22. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    In his shoes I'd rather sign for Barca. We practically destroyed his reputation.

    Don't know what he does next to be honest.
     
  23. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    I reckon if it's a different administration not related to the current one.
     
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  24. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    I think it's more likely Dennis Rodman becomes the German Chancellor than Anybody else becoming Real Madrid president other than Florentino or a puppet of his.
     
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  25. Aensensen

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    Croatia
    Jun 10, 2011
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    Real Madrid
    I hear you guys about the man management side of things, but you tell me, what has our world class man manager Carlo managed to get out of this team last year?

    It's hard to judge a coach on his man management skills when the board is constantly holding a noose to his neck. Not to mention I don't think I ever saw a team this spoiled. The Galacticos were bad, but at least they were certified legends. This group is something else.

    Besides, I can't remember any Bayer Leverkusen player clashing with Xabi. We decide to bring him on, a handful of our players act like spoiled brats and he gets no backing at all...

    I mean, you can't really hire a young coach and expect him to have the man managing aura of Zizou.
     
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