Pakistan in the news

To be fair, it's an understandable reaction when that highly violent small number is saying it's because of their religion. Although those are not the ones saying theirs is a religion of peace.

 

Joseph Kony proclaims himself a leader of the Lord's Resistance Army sanctioned by god, yet Christianity is not similarly tarnished by his insanity. Understandable though might be right, it does appear that many in the Middle East think that Christians are a bloodthirsty lot based on the actions of a few.

 

Disgusting act, interesting though http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/16/pakistan-afghan-taliban_n_6335582.html

 

I didn't say all, I specifically singled out the Islamic Terrorists, which is exactly what they are. I should think that you of all people would be able to differentiate between labeling all followers of Islam and terrorists who use Islam as the calling card for acts of terror.

If anyone misconstrued my meaning then let me be clear, all followers of Islam are not terrorists. Groups like the taliban, aq, hamas, hezbollah, islamic jihad, among the many others whose names I cannot recall such as the groups in Africa, and Asia are Islamic terrorists.

 

If this were the middles ages you would have a strong case to say that Christian are a bloodthirsty lot based on their actions. The Inquisition, and numerous other acts during that time definitely qualify as terrorism.

As for Kony, the second he starts committing heinous acts of violence on a par with what we have seen Islamic terrorists committ I will happily call him and his group terrorists

 

Hamas and palestinian Islamic jihad are no more terrorists the IDF you {MOD EDIT: OTL in this forum}.

 

The LRA are estimated to have killed around 65,000 people in Uganda alone, not even taking in to account the DRC and Sudan.

 

hamas and islamic jihad are terrorists, or don't you think a long history of suicide bombers and attacks on night clubs, buses, bus stations, etc... count? And they aren't limited to terrorizing jews either, ask fatah members, those still alive, in Gaza about their tactics and actions.

 

I have to say that I am completely ignorant of this person or the LRA. but the terrorist bastards should be taken down and destroyed just like any other terror group.

 

I remember when Obama issues some orders to train and provide funding for the people going after Kony (I guess it did not come to much) and a coworker was so upset because she heard in Fox news that Obama was targeting Christian groups in Africa.

But hey I am all good with calling Kony and such people Christian terrorists.

But they are just doing the lords work.

 

But IDF bombings and air strikes that massacre children are alright in your book right? One man terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

 

They started as an ethnic rebel group in Northern Uganda, but now they basically roam around the region killing people, kidnapping kids and trying to survive off ivory poaching.

US military advisors are still there but they are mostly concerned with Uganda and Kony and his group have moved into the DRC and CAR. They are shockingly good survivalists, basically living in the bush.

 

You mean IDF bombs hamas who hide their rockets and launch from schools and then use their own people as propaganda to say look how bad Israel is for daring to attacking our weapons while they are hidden among women and children.

 

Thank you for the information. Sick disgusting bastards who would be quite correctly classified as Christian Terrorists and should be treated as such.

 

My point was, just because a sick twisted group wraps itself in a certain flag, doesn't mean it represents the flag. If anything, associating Islam with this particular group of Taliban is exactly what they'd hope to accomplish from this. They perceived the world as attacking Islam and if they can convince as many people as possible to reenforce that thought process, it furthers their cause.

 

Sadly there are quite a few groups that are wrapping themselves up as Islamic Terrorists. I call them Islamic terrorists because it is an accurate depication of what they are, just as I will call Kony and his group Christian Terrorists because it is what they are. This should not and does not imply that Christians or Muslims are all terrorists, it simply classifies the groups.

 

I read that the actual masterminds have hidden in Kunar province on the Afghan side of the border.

Reprieve, a legal charity whose work I admire, have given accounts of people who are going to be executed who were not involved in terrorism offences.

I can understand the desire for vengeance, and I would support rescinding the moratorium on the death penalty for those involved in actual terrorist acts (not armed uprising against troops but attacks on civilians). And I also support the military offensive in Waziristan, at least in principle.

But the tribal areas cannot be dealt with purely through force. They need to use force but only as part of a strategy of bringing the civilian population in the tribal areas some security as well as disarming (or at least establishing a long lasting truce) with the militants. They need to stop supporting or commissioning drone strikes in those areas, start using force against militants in those areas only where it doesn't kill civilians, and stop the "disappearances" of civilians and alleged militants.

 

There is nothing in Umar's post that can be considered a "lie". The point he was making is that the victims themselves are of the Islamic faith, and that these terrorist attacks have more to do with socioeconomic and political issues in Pakistan than it does religious or ideological. Now how is that a lie?
Them screaming "Allahu akbar" is neither here or there.

 

Religion is an important aspect of this clash in Pakistan. In how the religion is perceived and carried out in ones culture. Sharia law is evil no doubt and many people in that part of the world believe in this crap. It is not a radical minority that people speak of. The idea that some group of people can plan to carry out attack against kids is unfathomable.

 

No, I dont adhere to any religion and I believe in a secular state. But that has nothing to do with what I said earlier.

 

Shariah Law is perfectly fine for me, far better than all the alternatives.

Chuma needs to educate himself on what Shariah actually is. So do a lot of Muslims.

 

Tell me about it.

 

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