Paging Mr. Howard (R)

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by ripmstr, Nov 23, 2004.

  1. ripmstr

    ripmstr New Member

    Sep 7, 2000
    Orlando Fl
    Oppps Carroll yakked one!
     
  2. Red Star

    Red Star Member

    Jan 10, 2002
    Fayetteville, AR
    Re: Paging Mr. Howard

    I thought the same thing. Well here is the chance for Fergie to work him back in. A face saving opportunity.
     
  3. GRUNT

    GRUNT Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lake Oswego, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Paging Mr. Howard

    An (R) might be appropriate.

    In any case, IMO that was worse than any Howard gaffe I've seen.
     
  4. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Howard - Manchester United vs Lyon (R) 11/23/04

    Howard on the bench.

    41st minute, Carroll makes a bad error, can't hold on to the shot that's directly at him and lets it slip into the net. 1-1.
     
  5. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Paging Mr. Howard

    Just saw it... in fairness, it was a speculative shot from long range that knuckled like crazy. But nonetheless, Carroll should've had it in his mitts.

    And shouldn't there be an "{R}" on this thread?

    Would Tim Howard made that save? Maybe, maybe not, we'll never know... but it shows that any 'keeper is capable of making a blunder in a big game.
     
  6. GRUNT

    GRUNT Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lake Oswego, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Paging Mr. Howard

    To be fair, Carroll has been playing very well. It should take more than one mistake to lose his spot.
     
  7. ripmstr

    ripmstr New Member

    Sep 7, 2000
    Orlando Fl
    Thanks for adding the (R). Caroll has also fumbled another.
     
  8. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    That ranks with the worst gk plays I've seen. No deflection, not exactly ripping, from distance. Must have had a wicked bend or something, but how on earth did he not smother that. Combine that with the goal sparta prague gave up tonight, and there's a lot of work for Howard int his champions league.
     
  9. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    cheered my ass off.
     
  10. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    from soccernet:

     
  11. rorschach

    rorschach New Member

    Mar 1, 2004
    Kirkwood Atlanta
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Singapore
    Tommy Smyth went on to say that maybe Timmy Howard could have stopped that....I was thinking the same thing. A goal due to keeper error.

    Sorry Carroll.
     
  12. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 13, 1999
    New Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Howard - Manchester United vs Lyon (R) 11/23/04

    IT IS WHAT WE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR , ISN'T IT

    Carroll is not a bad keeper, but this was a bad error on his part, it happens, it happend to Howard

    if score remains 1-1 Carroll will get lot of blame, if Man U wins, everyone will forget and forgive
     
  13. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 13, 1999
    New Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    actualy he said " a lot of people will say Timmy would have saved that "
     
  14. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, like bad food.
     
  15. Wahoo

    Wahoo New Member

    Aug 15, 2001
    Seattle, USA
    I would hope that most pro keepers make that save.
    Yes it was knuckling a bit, but he should have been able to keep it out.

    Do I think Tim makes that save... yes
    but then I think that 95% of the time so does Roy.

    While I really want Howard to get back into games, Carroll's been playing well, so I doubt this one mistake will make him sit anytime soon.
     
  16. Treetaliano

    Treetaliano Member

    Jun 29, 2002
    Charlotte, NC
    Dammit Carroll
     
  17. Toolhead

    Toolhead Member

    Jul 6, 2003
    Williamsport, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I was watching it live, and couldn't help cackling like a one dimensional villian in a chessy hollywood B flick.
     
  18. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 13, 1999
    New Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can't say i watched as much Man U as i used to (since Howard is out ) and i admit Carroll is not a bad keeper, but i always Knew he is not as good as Howard. The fact remains that Carroll hasn't had much goalkeeping to do since Rio is back and Heinze is playing regulary. If one thinks back to the assult that Howard used to be facing and to what Carroll has been dealing with its totaly different ball games.
     
  19. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    ManU has now witnessed CL blunders by three very talented keepers, in carroll, howard, and barthez. So what does this prove? It's a tough position, everyone makes mistakes, and Howard very likely will get another shot.
     
  20. ripmstr

    ripmstr New Member

    Sep 7, 2000
    Orlando Fl
    I believe most agree but perception is everything and at the time they needed a scapgoat and Howard was it.
     
  21. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Paging Mr. Howard

    agreed
     
  22. GRUNT

    GRUNT Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lake Oswego, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Paging Mr. Howard

    A reprieve, courtesy of RvN.
     
  23. Wahoo

    Wahoo New Member

    Aug 15, 2001
    Seattle, USA
    The Lyon defense doesn't seem to care tonight do they...

    Anyway, I hope ManU advances... and Howard can reclaim the starting job for later matches.
     
  24. Red Star

    Red Star Member

    Jan 10, 2002
    Fayetteville, AR
    Re: Paging Mr. Howard

    Fair, Be Fair? What is this strange and unfamiliar "Fair" you speak of? I know not any "Fair". Can you eat "Fair"?

    As a 100% howling homer on this subject I have no concern with being fair. I do however admire it in others, from a distance.
     
  25. GRUNT

    GRUNT Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lake Oswego, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Paging Mr. Howard

    I didn't say I would be fair. I just said to be fair. :)
     

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