PBP: P01135809 Trump Espionage, Coup, Conspiracy, Racketeering, Fraud & Obstruction Trial Thread

Does Trump have a deadline for either

1) filing an appeal?
2) paying the judgement?

What are the key dates in this? Assuming this is why requested the stay, which has since been denied.

 

About 15 days to file.

In NY…if you’re going to appeal and want to delay paying while on appeal…you have to either come up with the cash amount awarded yourself (it will be held in trust until the appeals are completed…oh…and you’ll owe interest too), or you have to convince someone else to put up the money for you…or convince a licensed bond company to post bond that will make them liable for the settlement amount if you don’t pay.

So outside Putin, Musk and friends passing around the hat to give Trump half a billion dollars to light on fire…the recovery process will start the moment the stay is lifted.

 

I literally want to keep a running Boredies thread because post like this are brilliant but won't be remembered in a few months.

 

So question for our resident attorneys….Trump has filed a motion to dismiss a portion of the documents case charges on immunity grounds…does Cannon have the authority to dismiss these with prejudice (the one that isn’t appealable)? Not wondering if she’d have grounds to do it. Wondering if she could just because she feels like it.

 

Not a lawyer, BUT............
He wasn't President when he was asked to return the docs.

 

I get that…but that wasn’t my question.

 

And the stay automatically lifts two Fridays from now.

 

I hadn’t thought of that. But surely if he can somehow convince a NYS licensed surety the court would allow it (there is no ********ing way one will.)

 

Imagine in the future going after someone that can't afford to pay for an appeal and they actually are innocent. What a powerful tool for a government to have against anyone.

 

I wonder how many people have been put to death after being falsely accused and wrongly found guilty.

 

They aren’t paying for an appeal. They’re paying to stop the award from happening while they appeal. It stops the winner from getting the losers money while the appeals process is exhausted while also ensuring the money is available in the event the appeal fails.

 

His claim is that while he was President, he not only declassified all of the documents (without telling anyone), but he converted them to his own personal records. Therefore, NRA had no right to the documents, so he was within his rights to refuse to provide the documents to NRA.

If Cannon grants this motion, I suspect that Smith will head straight to the 11th circuit and appeal it, probably even ask to have her removed from the trial.

 

Aside from the 6 month lock-up, are there other constraints on how Trump or other insiders can dispose of their shares? These SPACs appear to be legalized ponzi schemes.

 

Trump is still arguing that the President can declassify through the power of thought?

 

You are correct sir.

 

Yes. That has been his claim pretty much all along.

 

Ok. Let’s grant him that. The stuff requested still isn’t “his,” as long as it was in the performance of his duties as president, right? I guess if it’s declassified, it changes the severity of the charges, but not ownership, or am I missing something?

 

Just to repeat myself. He is claiming that he also converted them to personal records and courts have ruled that a President's personal records are not covered by NRA. The issue being, as with all of Trump's lawyers claims, the case doesn't actually say he can do that. The case in question covers things like personal journals and private records outside of the President's role as a President.

Oh, also, Trump is also claiming that he has absolute Presidential immunity and that Cannon should not be persuaded by the DC Circuit's ruling that he doesn't have Presidential immunity.