P-40's in the Mock SuperDraft

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by DigitalTron, Jan 12, 2003.

  1. DigitalTron

    DigitalTron New Member

    Apr 4, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Here is my Mck SuperDraft on our new site, TopDrawerSoccer.com

    http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/NextStep/1042342349/view

    Other of our prominent posters have provided content to this new site as well. Of note, Sandon Mibut has given bios for the various players, including the record 12 P-40 players. Also, GersMan has some great stuff regarding the P-40's as well.

    The Mock SuperDraft is also being discussed by itself in the DC United forum, here:

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28274

    I hope you enjoy it.

    -Tron
     
  2. K.P.

    K.P. Member

    Mar 18, 2001
    Philly
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "With Andy Williams rumored to be on his way out, Thomas may be a big hit with the Jamaican fans."

    I know you did that in fun, but this line is just silly.
     
  3. SourCream&OnionUtd

    Nov 19, 1998
    oh well...at least he didn't say...

    scouts are getting really high on the Jamaican after he signed with the league this weekend. his ability to stone opposing attackers packs considerable potency. plus, he can not be passed on the left-hand side.
     
  4. Stogey23

    Stogey23 Member+

    Dec 12, 1998
    San Diego, CA
    Re: oh well...at least he didn't say...

    Das some goooooood shiiiiiiiiiit TJ.
     
  5. JimmieLivealot

    JimmieLivealot New Member

    Oct 22, 2002
    Austin, TX
    So is Thomas cap-tied to Jamaica or could Arena poach him from our CONCACAF rivals?
     
  6. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    He's way-cap-tied. He played for Jamaica in qualifiers for Korea/Japan. That he was able to do this as a teenager is part of what makes him so desirable.
     
  7. SourCream&OnionUtd

    Nov 19, 1998
    then of course you could whip out some Office Space...

    and for Gonzalez, say, "Oh, hello Galaxy...whaaaaat's happening? Say, did you get that Memo?"

    is it possible that Gonzalez is the hottest commodity in this draft? we'll know more by the end of the week, but it wouldn't surprise me if this situation becomes increasingly likely.

    if this is the case, and mind you this is all hypothetical, but, what if it *was* clear by Friday that Gonzalez was the consensus #1? would the Gals not then be forced to move heaven, earth, and the eighth and tenth picks in order to land him?

    switching gears slightly, i really think it's possible that Eskandarian's stock may drop on account of his absence at the combine. and i also think the only reason he was thought of as a consensus #1 in the first place was because he was virtually the only player most of the American soccer community was pretty certain was coming out for the draft.

    Hudson's comments on Esky with respect to whether or not United would select him were so diplomatic you'd think he were working on Capitol Hill and not United Park.

    i think as many as four players in this draft almost certainly have more upside than Eskandarian, and so even though everyone still seems to think it is a no-brainer (btw, i've always hated this phrase, as it suggests that a decision is made without ever actually involving the brain) that he will suit up in the Red and Black in '03, i think it's not even close to being a foregone conclusion.

    all in all, this is shaping up to be, at least for me, the most exciting week in the history of MLS.
     
  8. Stogey23

    Stogey23 Member+

    Dec 12, 1998
    San Diego, CA
    Re: then of course you could whip out some Office Space...

    I agree, this draft seems to be loaded.
     
  9. kevbrunton

    kevbrunton New Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Edwardsburg, MI
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is Gonzalez an attacking mid? If so and if DCU and Metros don't take him 1 or 2, I don't see the Fire letting him go by the #3 pick. That's their biggest need right now and there don't seem to be any options for one coming from another team or via discovery popping up yet.
     
  10. GersMan

    GersMan Member

    May 11, 2000
    Indianapolis
    he's definitely an attacking mid.
     
  11. davide

    davide Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    The Fire already have Craig Capano. Do they really need another young player that plays essentially the same position? Diego Walsh might be a better option for the Fire.
     
  12. Stogey23

    Stogey23 Member+

    Dec 12, 1998
    San Diego, CA
    Memo is more of an attacking player than Capano.
    From what I hear, Diego Walsh also plays the same position as Memo...I really don't see your point.

    Sounds like Memo has World Class potential, I'm not sure if Walsh fits that bill, plus Memo is 5-6 years younger.
     
  13. DigitalTron

    DigitalTron New Member

    Apr 4, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Yes Memo is an attacking player, but I wouldn't expect him to go #1 overall. But if he keeps up his stellar play, it may just be inconceivable for the league to force him down to #8. If that were the case, I would look to see the Chicago Fire deal down with the LA Galaxy. The Galaxy would get the #3 pick and Chicago would get two picks, with at least one being a first rounder.

    As for Diego Walsh, he's probably more ready right now to lead a team, and more ready to take the physical abuse. If Chicago decides to go the central attacking mid route, they may take Diego Walsh. Or, if they trade down, they may use Mike Magee in that role, although I see him more as a creative forward.

    Remember, whenever a pre-college guy enters the draft, at least one team needs to file an acceptable program for him. This program includes living arrangements, parental-like guidance, education plan, etc. Usually the families want them close to home as well, and so the most interested teams tend to be the local teams. But unless another team has filed an acceptable program with MLS, they cannot select him with any draft pick. We have no way of knowing how many have filed, or if there are more than one.

    Look for a lot of trade talk on draft day, and a few actual trades.

    -Tron
     
  14. davide

    davide Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    Yeah, Walsh is a better choice if the Fire need help immediately this year. Of course, I don't know his foreign status or salary type concerns. It might make him less desirable.

    Gonzalez has more upside, but Gonzalez still needs to finish HS in Florida and will likely be in Finland in August. So, I don't see him making a huge contribution to any team this season.

    So, I guess if the Fire are willing to wait for Memo it's a good pick at #3.

    Will Capano be competing for PT with Marsch and Armas as a holding player? It sounds like another year in Milwaukee would do him good.
     
  15. West Lakeview Fire

    West Lakeview Fire New Member

    Sep 16, 2002
    Chicago
    Look for a lot of trade talk on draft day, and a few actual trades.

    -Tron

    That sounds like the best prediction of the week
     
  16. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Denver
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Re: oh well...at least he didn't say...

    I would certainly hope he can stone people if he's from Jamaica.
     
  17. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Craig Capano is a helluva prospect but he is not a future defensive mid. Period.

    To be a defensive mid, you have to play defense. The next time Capano plays defense will be the first.

    He's got great vision and tactical awareness, passes very well, holds the ball in traffic and has a strong shot.

    But, he is not a ball-winner. Supposedly, when they were with the 17s, Jordan Stone basically never went forward because he knew he had to stay back and cover for Capano and if he did go forward, Capano wouldn't slide back and cover for him.

    Talented? Yes. Creative? Yes. Attack-minded? Yes. A future replacement at D-mid for Marsch and Armas? Not hardly.

    BTW, if they don't make a trade, I see the Fire taking Walsh. With Nowak and Kovalenko gone, they have a big hole behind their forwards and Walsh is skilled and mature enough to fill that until Capano is ready.

    All this talk about Magee at No. 3, I think, is misleading. I know Magee wants to play with his hometown team but no way is he the third-best player in this draft. He wouldn't have gone No. 3 last year - when Mapp went 4th - and this year's draft is MUCH deeper than last year's.

    The Fire may ultimately draft Magee, but it will be somewhere in the second round. The third overall pick is just way too high for him.
     
  18. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer New Member

    Sep 3, 1999
    Yeah, Capano is no true dmid. I'm not so sure he has the physical qualities to be a true #10 though---I look at him as more of a Claudio Reyna type.

    Lots of people are high on Walsh I see. The only way I see him going top 5 is if he has a green card. He's already 23 and has a limited amount of time before he turns into a full international. His success is not guaranteed either IMHO--this is MLS, and not college. Ask Lavrinenko, Korol, Alavanja, and Curtis about that one.
     
  19. Stogey23

    Stogey23 Member+

    Dec 12, 1998
    San Diego, CA
    I had never heard this.

    Silly question I know, but is this backed up anywhere by MLS?
     
  20. beineke

    beineke New Member

    Sep 13, 2000
    Count me among the people who are high on Walsh. He's easily good enough to justify a senior international slot.
     

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