OTT 55 - You are not the Premier League Champions!

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  1. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

    May 3, 2004
    02116
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    yes, thanks to our poor performance against Wolves.
     
  2. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    Come on then, Villa and Newcastle.

    Vlla Park and St. James' park too..... get in there.....
     
  3. Suss

    Suss Moderator
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    Aug 11, 2003
    New York
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    Really cool speech from the Brighton manager about Milner:

     
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  4. Suss

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    Aug 11, 2003
    New York
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    Chelsea beat Villa. United lose to Newcastle

    United 51
    Villa 51
    Chelsea 48
    Liverpool 48

    The good thing about being in a top 5 race is none of the teams involved are good.
     
  5. Suss

    Suss Moderator
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    Aug 11, 2003
    New York
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    I think Villa losing might have been the better result for us. Villa finishing 6th might be our most likely path into the Champions League.
     
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  6. hubbabubba

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    May 17, 2002
    Ann Arbor, MI
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    United States
    Probably we’re going to have to win against ManU, Villa, and Chelsea to ensure we have a good chance to pass them into CL spots…. The bad news is we are going to have to probably also start winning against teams who are playing really deep blocks against us. The good news is that at least Villa and Chelsea, and probably ManU as well, are likely to actually try to play against us.
     
  7. imasyko

    imasyko Member+

    May 16, 2002
    Spring City, PA
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    If only we were...



    good, that is. :(
     
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  8. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

    May 3, 2004
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    And the other 3 are all sure to drop silly points along the way, too.
     
  9. CB-West

    CB-West Member+

    Sep 20, 2013
    NorCal
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    Liverpool FC
    That's the thing - isn't it?
    The PL this year is..."competitive?"
    While we lost points to the bottom of the table team...Cheaty also lost points to a team they should've beaten...and so did MU...Arsenal has also dropped points to "lower level teams"...

    It's always been that "any team can beat any other team" on a good day...but this season it seems more so than usual...

    That doesn't make any excuse for the way we've been playing/not playing...I still prefer to score more goals than the team we are up against...and I still prefer to do it Klop's "Heavy Metal" way than Slot's "Easy Listening" way...
     
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  10. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
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    It definitely is. In prior seasons it's been pretty damn rare, but this season it is becoming routine for any of the bottom-5 clubs to get good results against any of the top-5 teams. Nobody can take any result as a given.
     
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  11. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

    May 3, 2004
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    At some point the utility of money hits a wall.
    The PL rakes in so much money that the 18th placed team in England is among the richest 15 clubs in the world.
    Every bottom half team can buy the best players from 55 of the 60 German, Italian, and Spanish clubs.
    Wolves' 45m winger is capable of regularly hurting a 130m CB pair in ways that wasn't likely 10, 15 years ago.
     
  12. Red Bird

    Red Bird Member+

    Sep 30, 2003
    Oxford
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    Liverpool FC
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    England
    I think coaching has more to do with this than simply buying good players. We have a new generation of young, mostly foreign, coaches plying their trade. The reason why the likes of Brighton, Bournemouth, Crystal Palace are giving everyone a hard time is because they’re well coached. No more old boys network of failed managers bumping along the bottom of the league, gaining an occasional upset against Man City, but mostly folding over meekly.
     
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  13. bayred

    bayred Member+

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    May 28, 2018
    Agree with this. The days of the Big Sams, Sean Dyche's and Harry R's who specialized in keeping the weak teams up for a year or so are long gone.
     
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  14. CB-West

    CB-West Member+

    Sep 20, 2013
    NorCal
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    David Moyes?
     
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  15. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
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    It's not an either/or -- it's both.

    Better skilled players (as Tips says, the PL can take their pick of the European and SA crop), who are paid remarkably well to dedicate themselves to the job, playing smarter football managed by coaches who are paid huge amounts to succeed.

    With both groups supported by sports analysis nerds and sports fitness/health experts at the top of their profession.
     
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  16. Red Bird

    Red Bird Member+

    Sep 30, 2003
    Oxford
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    England
    I I agree it’s both. I was just saying in my view good coaching is the more important. You can only get so much from buying players. Just look at Man U and Chelsea in recent seasons.
     
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  17. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
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    good point.
     
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  18. Menace2Sobriety

    Menace2Sobriety Member+

    Aug 12, 2004
    Washington DC
  19. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    They will need at least 2 - maybe 3. It's super early.

    but I do think they can pull this off.
     
  20. Menace2Sobriety

    Menace2Sobriety Member+

    Aug 12, 2004
    Washington DC
    1-1 wonky OG

    stuck at the house so watching some football finally
     
  21. Red Bird

    Red Bird Member+

    Sep 30, 2003
    Oxford
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    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Watching rugby, instead.

    Ducks …
     
  22. Menace2Sobriety

    Menace2Sobriety Member+

    Aug 12, 2004
    Washington DC
    Scotland France seemed a fun game.
     
  23. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    Darn offside?
     
  24. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
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    United States
  25. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    And then the Wrexham defense mucks it up again
     

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