OTT 54 - Yes, we bought 85 players, and no we won't get punished

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by newterp, Sep 4, 2024.

  1. speker

    speker Member+

    May 16, 2009
    Canada
    Club:
    Liverpool FC

    That's a shame. Just read this by Collin Milar(TheAthletic)

    INEOS first 10 months at ManU

    - Extend ETH contract & sack him, costing £millions

    - Appoint Ashworth & sack him, costing £millions

    - Unprecedented ticket price rise


    - Mass redundancies

    - Overseeing worst on-field results since 1980s (28 league games, 35 points from takeover)
     
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  2. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    MU is a shambles from top to bottom and side to side.

    nothing about the operation of the club makes any sense from either a sporting or a business perspective.

    and every major action they could take to correct one problem area generates a ripple-effect worsening of another problem area. it's not clear what they could do now to fix it because they refuse to accept the only way out is to get humble and accept accomplishing nothing and becoming a mid-table team (making a lot less money) for a few years while they work out the problems.

    but, but -- everyone associated with the place still thinks they're a top organization and / or are getting mighty rich off it no matter what they do.
     
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  3. Red Bird

    Red Bird Member+

    Sep 30, 2003
    Oxford
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Explains an observation in the report from the BBC’s in-house Manc, Simon Stone, that Dan Ashworth had walked through the media room with eyes on the floor …
     
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  4. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    I find this quite a nice zone to be in.

    we are top of the PL by a solid margin, and best team in CL, while the two Manc teams are going through a series of self-created crises both on and off the pitch.

    happy days right now :p:p
     
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  5. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    United paid Newcastle over £3M for Ashworth. In a nutshell this confirms the stable f.ucking genius that Ratcliffe is. Ashworth has a decent pedigree, as he was largely the guy who put Brighton on track. But compare United to us. (This is not to say that we’re the be all and end all, but at least we have an idea of what we’re going).

    In this calendar year, both United and Liverpool have replaced the GM/Sporting Director and manager. In Liverpool’s case we started with a manager and GM who were on the same page tactically. Granted Klopp probably exerted too much influence on the direction of on-field activities, but basically you had a manager with a footballing philosophy and a simpatico GM. At United, you had a manager who thought philosophy was a disease you caught in the tropics and a series of GMs who bought when they thought they were getting a good deal. Whether or not the player fitted into the team was hardly an afterthought. Then they brought in Ashworth, a GM with a precise footballing philosophy which had been shown to work, who was very much at odds with the manager. A marriage made in heaven it definitely was not.

    The club staggered through an almost calamitous opening to the season, dancing with relegation more than anything else, so they get rid of the manager. Now, now is the the time to line up manager and GM. Both on the same page, both with similar footballing philosophies. But that was too easy wasn’t it? Way too obvious. Let’s bring in a manager who has a rather different take on matters, who definitely does not align with the GM.

    So now you have a GM and manager as much at odds with each other as all other GMs and managers have been for the last 12 years. Because if there’s one thing that succeeds, it’s repeating all the faults and failures of the last 12 years, but hey! maybe if we do them in a different order this time, with different personalities. That’s sure to work. So now they’re off to find another GM who aligns with the new manager and that’s only going to increase the sway of the manager and undercut any GM arriving in. To be told you’ll be essentially taking your marching orders from the manager, even though your his boss. Yep! Got success written all over itself, that does.

    Lastly, sporting genius Ratcliffe fired/early retired hundreds of United staff in the last 3-6 months. Cost cutting the working man, because that’s what billionaires do best. These cost cuttings saved United about £10m. Ashworth cost them over £3M from Newcastle and shall we say about £2M in compensation redundancy. So closing in on £6M. I’m sure there are many ex-employees who have no opinions there.
     
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  6. Suss

    Suss Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 11, 2003
    New York
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nothing of note is happening in the Arsenal game, so I couldn’t possibly jinx it by posting on here.
     
  7. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    sshhhhhh :)
     
  8. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    I think you’re wrong.
     
  9. Red Bird

    Red Bird Member+

    Sep 30, 2003
    Oxford
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Remember the Gillicks era complete with Hodgson as manager? They’ll take years to unravel this mess.
     
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  10. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is the easiest ever win for Arsenal that I've seen in my life. Maybe easier than the Westham win.
     
  11. ewibe

    ewibe Member+

    Jun 4, 2015
    Stavanger
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Ødegaard finished the first half in pain after being tackled by Berge. If he has injured his ancle again Arsenal is going to struggle
     
  12. bayred

    bayred Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    May 28, 2018
    Who can forget Christian Poulsen, Joe Cole, Paul Konchesky? I certainly can't...
     
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  13. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lobotomy!
     
  14. newterp

    newterp Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's really intriguing to me is that they will stumble on success at some point - surely?

    but my hope is that INEOS and Ratcliffe (and his massive ego) will delay that success as long as possible.

    for all of FSGs faults - they knew they didn't know football - and worked hard to correct those mistakes.

    was Klopp a lucky appointment? Yes and no - you still need to give them credit enough to have given him the framework to succeed.
     
  15. newterp

    newterp Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  16. newterp

    newterp Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's surely off?

    how do you get 2 decisions!!



    Edit!! Off!!
     
  17. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    I’ve always been a very keen supporter of VAR.
     
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  18. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wooooohoooo!!
     
  19. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    2 draws and a loss in their last 3. If Spursy means anything, I fear for Chelsea. :D
     
  20. catenaccio_L'pool

    Oct 21, 2005
    Top Of The Table
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Great job Fulham... Come on you Spurs!
     
  21. Menace2Sobriety

    Menace2Sobriety Member+

    Aug 12, 2004
    Washington DC
    Deffo a Spurs win
     
  22. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Especially non semi-auto VAR!

    take your time please. Keep everyone guessing. From time to time within the same game draw different line. I love it
     
  23. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    I’ve been an avid supporter of VAR even before it was law.
     
  24. ewibe

    ewibe Member+

    Jun 4, 2015
    Stavanger
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Spurs score two early goals
     
  25. Menace2Sobriety

    Menace2Sobriety Member+

    Aug 12, 2004
    Washington DC
    Spurs will be Spurs
     

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