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  1. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    ...or gnu ("noo", or "nyoo").
     
  2. nivla

    nivla Member+

    Jan 17, 2003
    Milpitas
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    If you like red cards, epic GK own goal and Quakes type of defending before this season, please watch this game between Toronto and Colorado.

     
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  3. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank you, i guess that’s where i picked up g’noo — working at HP as a software engineer…
     
  4. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #20979 JazzyJ, Apr 7, 2026
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2026
    GNU software is an acronym for GNU’s Not Unix. Confusing because the acronym description contains the acronym itself, which was probably a little geek joke they got a kick out of. But since it’s an acronym there’s certainly legitimacy in pronouncing it gah-noo, and not noo. But then they used a gnu (animal) for their logo to complicate matters. :)
     
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  5. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Once again demonstrating that as a whole, the coding community has the sophisticated sense of humor possessed by the average fifth grader.
     
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  6. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    How about 7,211 fans in attendance at the inaugural home game for Athletic Club Boise!

    [​IMG]
     
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  7. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I had never heard that’s what GNU stood for. Interesting!
    Old time programmers were so much more clever than today’s AI slopboys.
     
  8. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #20983 JazzyJ, Apr 10, 2026
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2026
    I think back in the day programming had some connection to mathematics in that you could design something clever. A clever algorithm is a bit like a clever proof in mathematics. I don't know exactly what clever will mean in the age of AI. It's a whole new ballgame now.
     
  9. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Haha, today’s generation seems to think that clever means finding a meme.

    Also, my son says that the kids they are interviewing out of college do not know how to program, they only know how to tell the AI what to do.
     
  10. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I graduated college without knowing how to do either. :)
     
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  11. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I've been out of the industry for a while so I don't have a good feel for what's going on, but I think what it means to be a SW Engineer is going to be quite different than what it used to mean. And a pure "programmer" is going to be more or less obsolete.
     
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  12. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Entry level Software Engineering is now obsolete. So are "Leet Coders" (people who specialize in optimizing algorithms, usually just to pass interviews for companies like Google). Modern (in the last 6 months) AI models perform better. The only reason Sr. Engineers are valuable now is that the memory context of the AI models is limited and things need to be broken apart into manageable chunks for the AI. But you can process all of those chunks at once, so it's kinda like a manager working with their team to get something done.

    For now the things that the AI does need to be reviewed so the more experienced the Engineer the better during these reviews. That's gonna change quickly imo.

    AI is now a super power for Software Architects and Product Managers but memory (the size of the context a model can use) is the great limiter. It's possible that won't get much bigger and progress will level off (you can only build so many data centers so fast). That being said, I suspect that in a few years they won't be needed either and I hope to be retired by then :\
     
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  13. staudio

    staudio Member+

    Mar 7, 2008
    Marin
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Have not followed MLS closely the last couple of seasons as I have in the past.....turned on the Austin vs Galaxy game today, wasn't aware JT Marcinkowski was still around. Would never cheer for a Galaxy player but while he was with the Quakes he seemed to be a good guy and well liked by his teammates.
     
  14. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Yes, and he also started their game against Toluca last week. I guess he's their #1 keeper right now? They're giving him a shot anyway.
     
  15. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Sounds about what I'd expect. Are people (the SW engineers) freaking out?

    [Sorry for the tangent folks, this should end soon :)]
     
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  16. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    AI can’t replace lawyers until it stops “hallucinating”, so there’s that.
     
  17. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    LAFC conceded a goal today so Quakes currently tied for stingiest defense pending action tonight.
     
  18. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Someone took me to small claims court over an auto accident my daughter got into. I asked AI for some help in something related to CA auto insurance law and it hallucinated part of the vehicle code, like made-up number and everything. It was kind of directionally correct and in the right general section but that part of the code does not exist. Thankfully I checked before we went to court :).
     
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  19. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Portland just beat LAFC 2-1.
     
  20. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  21. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Earthquakes and Bay FC
    United States
    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    The problem is that AI always tries to find an answer, even if there isn't one. It's happy to make up whatever. So it's most effective to put in language directing it not to do that. I'm still learning how to communicate!
     
  22. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    So, basically, ask question, and postpend with "And don't make stuff up!"? You'd think they'd build that capability into the model if it has the ability to do it.
     
  23. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Earthquakes and Bay FC
    United States
    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    There's lot of information out there, and Anthropic just published/leaked its prompting playbook
     
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  24. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    The only thing I've used for a non-trivial length of time is Sora, to generate an animation to go with music I'd written. I think OpenAI recently discontinued it. It took a lot of work to get something usable. For example I'd ask it do show a group of people dancing excitedly to salsa music and at first they were jumping 50 feet in the air. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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  25. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And this is why you are still a Luddite!
     

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