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Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by KMJvet, Mar 8, 2014.

  1. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Nice of Mexico to give Andrés Guardado a send off.

    I can’t believe he is 38!
     
  2. Kaitlyn

    Kaitlyn Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 25, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Guardado is a legend! One of the best ever for Mexico.

    But Mexico outclassed the US National Team Today.
     
  3. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Fire Poch! Bring back GGG! :) I thought the Mexican National Team is the worst it's been in generations, and GGG has only been able to beat Mexico because of that? The US had 1 shot in the game?? :facepalm I know it was a lot of B Team for the US, but holy crap!

     
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  4. Kaitlyn

    Kaitlyn Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 25, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ironically the team is the worst its been, but surprisingly they out classed the US tonight everywhere.

    I am very optimistically concerned about the approach Poch has, and I'm very sus of the over reliance on all these European guys now... the US should have beaten Mexico, and GGG's tactics made Mexico look foolish.

    Will be an interesting ride to see. 2 games in 1-1... If Poch ends up losing more then winning, there will be calls for his head by next summer. January Boot Camp is VERY critical he HAS to get it right.

    I expect a good amount of young MLSers and guys like Aaron Long, pulled into camp
     
  5. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Of course it's way to early to draw any conclusions and it's been an A team / B team mix for the US, and mostly B team today, but man that was awful. And TBH they were lucky to beat Panama a few days ago. Could have easily been a 1-1 or 2-2 draw or even a 2-1 loss.
     
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  6. Kaitlyn

    Kaitlyn Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 25, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Very lucky.

    I think we need to start grooming 3 new goalkeepers.
     
  7. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gregg Berhalter had... 0 wins vs Mexico in Mexico, so yeah it's shocking that the USMNT with two dozen players injured wasn't able to win in Mexico in Poch's second ever game when they have done so exactly once in their entire history lol I guess the fact that Jurgen Klinsmann did so against a much better Mexico team than the one Berhalter or Poch have been facing, with crap players that included guys like Brek Shea, Terrance Boyd, and hero Michael Orozco Fiscal, means they should re-hire Klinsmann!
     
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  8. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #19008 JazzyJ, Oct 16, 2024
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2024
    Gregg Berhalter was also undefeated vs. Mexico in Mexico so there is that :). Poch will never achieve that in his USMNT coaching career, already behind. Of course I was mostly joking (thus the smiley about bringing GGG back - usually an indicator that someone's not serious) but still, not sure how you get only 5 shots in the whole game against any team, one on target, let alone the "worst Mexican team in many generations". That's some kind of "special effort".
     
  9. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You start by not having like 30 players there, including 11 of your best ones

    Injured: Balogun, Reyna, Weah, Cardoso, Richards, Adams, Dest, CCV, Paredes, LDLT, Cowell, Booth, Wiley, Ledezma, Yow, Dike, Kochen

    Sent back (injury or fatigue): Pulisic, McKennie, Pepi, Fossey, Steffen

    Not called up: Maloney, Luna, P Aaronson, Zimmerman, Pefok, Reynolds, Slonina
     
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  10. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    :eek::eek::eek::eek:

    Madrid are already removing him from promotional content.

    With how fast everything is moving it definitely doesn’t seem like a non-story.

     
  11. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #19011 JazzyJ, Oct 16, 2024
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2024
    There are always injures and guys who are otherwise not available. Reyna and Adams are almost always injured and Adams has barely played in the last year or two. Dest hasn’t been with the team much recently and Scalley’s been starting in his place. In fact the back 5 was pretty much starters. Ream’s CB partner changes all the time. There’s no regular there. Aaronson may not be a regular starter but 1st off the bench on the A Team. And then Musa to make 6 or 7.

    So arguably the team was at least half starters. And remember, this is “the worst Mexican team in generations”. *Any* team should be able to beat them, right? Right? Maybe you somehow manage to lose the game but not completely played off the pitch. Not making any grand conclusions about the future - the guy’s barely started. But we shouldn’t be afraid of calling balls and strikes as they come in.
     
  12. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Thomas Tuchel. The Three Lions head coach from 2025.


    [​IMG]
     
  13. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What a meaningless statement, yes there are always injuries but sometimes there are more injuries than at other times. For example Reyna had important goal contributions in all three Nations League semifinal-finals that the US won, despite being "almost always injured"... in fact the last time the US beat Mexico in Nations League the two goal scorers were... Reyna and Adams.
     
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  14. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    It’s not a “meaningless statement” at all. The fact is that we had arguably 6-7 starters from the A team and got completely skunked - I mean it was like PSG vs. Houston Baptist, by “the worst Mexican national team in generations”. I’m just calling balls and strikes here - just about what happened - not making grand pronouncements about the future. If you don’t like what happened in the game don’t blame me.
     
  15. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    This week, Sir Alex Ferguson:

    Got suspended by Manchester United from his role as the club's global ambassador.

    They're cutting off his £2 million annual bonus.

    He’s officially banned from entering the dressing rooms at Old Trafford.

    [​IMG]
     
  16. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is nonsense... name the 6-7 starters from the A team that they had.

    Since there are 11 starters that would mean only 4-5 starters were out...

     
  17. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I already named 6-7 guys who have started for the US nats A team. You can read it in my posts above. You almost never get your 100% top guys all starting at the same time, even at World Cup, not to mention there’s some debate even about who those 11 would be.
     
  18. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #19018 xbhaskarx, Oct 16, 2024
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2024
    Clever attempt to slightly change the wording from "we had arguably 6-7 starters from the A team" to "6-7 guys who have started for the A team", but those are very different things.

    Naming 6-7 guys "who have started" for the A team is different from naming 6-7 starters for the A team. For example, Josh Sargent started for the A team at the 2022 World Cup.... but that was before Folarin Balogun filed a one time switch to the USMNT, where he has been a regular starter for the A team above Sargent (who has been at best third behind Ricardo Pepi who was also missing).

    So again, which 6-7 "start for the A team" over players who were missing including Pulisic, Dest, Reyna, McKennie, Adams, Richards, Balogun, Weah, Pepi, etc?
     
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  19. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Again you’re not going to have your very best 11 every game even if you know who those guys are. Adams has been out for 1-2 years, Gio is usually injured, Dest is often unavailable, etc. All the guys I mentioned are in the top 15 or so of the A team: Turner, Ream, ARobinson, Scalley, Musa, Aaronson.
     
  20. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who are the 6-7 who are in the top 15?

    Again:
     
  21. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #19021 JazzyJ, Oct 16, 2024
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2024
    I named them in my last post, for the 2nd time. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  22. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So you're expecting the USMNT to not suck playing Mexico down in Mexico (where the US has won once in their entire history, apparently making Klinsmann the best USMNT coach ever) because they had "Turner, Ream, ARobinson, Scalley, Musa, Aaronson"... Robinson no one denies is good, Turner despite not playing at all for club is there by default given the dire state of the GK pool, Ream a 37 year old CB who has been below average in MLS, Aaronson who has never played well for the US... and two guys whose 5-6 word last names you can't even spell correctly... OK!

     
  23. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #19023 JazzyJ, Oct 16, 2024
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2024
    So you’re not denying that the US started 6 guys in their top 15 or so? Now (goal post move) it's about how it's almost impossible to win in Mexico and that I misspelled a few names? Remember this was a friendly. You’re not going to have your World Cup starting lineup.

    And losing is one thing; looking like Houston Baptist against PSG is another. Again I’m just calling balls and strikes here. If you don’t like what was a ball or a strike it’s not my fault.
     
  24. nivla

    nivla Member+

    Jan 17, 2003
    Milpitas
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  25. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes

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