Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by KMJvet, Mar 8, 2014.
Cavani (four goals in two games), too much for Roma to handle!
Yeah, I'd probably have to say Judson also. This is now his 3rd year with the Quakes, and yeah, Lima lasted only one 1/2 season. I think Geovanni might have been pretty good also, given time, but both of those guys only played half a season IIRC.
Yeah, he's a great striker.
Kind of a shame how MLS teams get walloped when they go to Mexico
We still have Philly! (they'll get walloped in the semifinals in August)
There is also a competitive disadvantage present due to the fact that MLS season is only three weeks old while the Liga MX is already 17 matchdays deep into its "Clausura".
Looks like Mcklennie could be one and done and going to the EPL....
McKennie può partire, la Juve detta le condizioni
Tuttofare con licenza di offendere, Weston McKennie è arrivato nello ... tra i giocatori bianconeri con più mercato in vista dei prossimi mesi.
That would be a really bad reading of the word "attempt" which has a pretty specific meaning. And that meaning does not ever include "faking like you're going to but then not actually trying to do".
I remember the first lady ref and George Best giving her a hard time....
Friday, May 7, 2021
An icon among referees: Betty Ellis made history on Mother's Day 40 years ago
by Mike Woitalla
Well, that’s why I was asking for other opinions. To me, definitely if the guy released the ball but missed the target, it’s an attempt and a red.
But if this were a youth game and a player did that pump-fake towards a coach player or fan, especially at what looks like a couple of feet of distance, depending on what that player had done prior in the game, I might consider that enough of an “attempt” to be a red card. I was just curious what others think…
One thing about an action like that, and Hollingshead said this to mlssoccer, is that he did it to fire up his teammates, and they went on to win the game. So if you allow something like that in a game without sufficient punishment, it could easily spiral out of control.
I am only an unqualified interloper.....however,
Is that what "attempt" means in regards to the rules of the game?
A player throwing a punch and connecting is "striking" the player. A player throwing a punch and missing because the player ducked, or it was a wild swing, would be "attempting" to strike. Either action is endangering the safety of an opponent.
He didn't "attempt" anything. He did exactly what intended to do, which was act like he was going to throw the ball, but, not doing so. He didn't endanger the coach in any way.
Don't you think a yellow card was sufficient punishment? Don't you think that sent the message that behavior like that wouldn't be tolerated?
The catch is, the referee is not supposed to gauge intent. So if someone does a pump fake, you don't really know if he meant it to be a fake, or if he started the motion and then changed his mind. That's why in my mind, one could technically call it an attempt. In other words, there is no law definition about fake attempts. It's either an attempt or it's not an attempt.
Yes, for pro level the yellow was acceptable, even though according to Hollingshead his unsporting behavior changed the game. I was just curious what others thought, as I have never seen an incident like that before.
Watched the SKC vs Broccoli FC game last night, I must say that Austin plays a very physical/thuggish style of play, we're going to have a really hard time with them.
LOL , Broccoli FC!
Loved the article falvo posted about Betty Ellis!
Yeah I remember when she made her debut. It was pretty cool!
Er, I think you mean "female ref" -- even the article didn't demean her by calling her a "lady" (though in the 1980s, people often trying to diminish the achievements of women in that way...I heard "lady lawyer" a lot, for example.) Let's all pretend we no longer need to put down ambitious women? A referee is a referee, and I for one am glad to see more women working big games.
That's what everyone called her back then as she was the first and it wasn't really an insult at the time.
Actually, they sad a lot of other , worse things to her as well.
You can just imagine what George Best said to her which I won't post.
I remember having many female refs in my youth and peninusla league days.
They were always pretty fair , didn't really have much attitude and called good games only and many of them wouldn't let us swear on the field as much and the men did.
It was an insult then, and intended to be.
It was 1981 and a different time. I met her a few times after that game and she was always very nice and gracious.
In an interview from around 2012 or so, Lorne Michaels revealed that in all of his years with Saturday Night Live to that point, Dana Carvey was the first of only two people (Kristen Wiig being the second) to have been so polished in his audition for the show that his first-ever on-air sketch was simply a slightly-refined version of the one he brought with him to the audition.
Here's that on-air sketch from SNL's 1986-1987 season premiere (Carvey's first season):
Incidentally, here's Carvey reprising that song a few years ago on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon:
GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!!
Will Ferrel's "Get off the shed" sketch was similar (audition to show).