News: Other National Teams (os outros)

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  1. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Yes. This was announced a while back.
     
  2. prodigal_mind

    prodigal_mind Member+

    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Portugal
    Jul 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Kinda funny a certain few on here claimed Spain are overrated and not that good in the middle of the last euro because all they do is hold possession

    I should repeat my comment here from 2024. How are Spain dominating like this??! None of their midfielders have even half the goals and assists Bruno alone has!
     
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  3. El_Bicho77

    El_Bicho77 Member

    Real Madrid
    Portugal
    Jun 26, 2026
    Indonesia
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Ronaldo having more shots on target vs Spain than Messi and Mbappe combine is something I never would have predicted :D
     
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  4. RedBullSeven

    RedBullSeven Member+

    Apr 28, 2012
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Argentina getting dominated makes the Nations League more valuable and prestige, imo.
     
  5. El_Bicho77

    El_Bicho77 Member

    Real Madrid
    Portugal
    Jun 26, 2026
    Indonesia
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    We are the only team that managed to beat Spain to a trophy in the last 3 years. That should be something to be proud of :thumbsup:
     
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  6. RedBullSeven

    RedBullSeven Member+

    Apr 28, 2012
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    #956 RedBullSeven, Jul 19, 2026
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2026
    I don’t know about Portuguese people but Ronaldo fans are having field day right now on twitter framing it that way.


    :ROFLMAO:
     
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  7. verde-rubro

    verde-rubro Member+

    C.S.Maritimo + Liverpool FC
    Portugal
    Jan 15, 2005
    LONDON
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Justice. Karma. World champions. Spain beat both Argentina and FIFA. After all the controversy on Argentina's road to the final, football won. Final stats: 20-2 shots, 12-0 on target. Argentina didn't have a single shot on target. Spain Deserved champions.
     
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  8. prodigal_mind

    prodigal_mind Member+

    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Portugal
    Jul 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Messi is holding back his team. Did zero dribbles no goals no chances created. Didn’t press anyone and even when his team was down a man was still walking upfront, basically leaving his team two players down. He should have asked the coach to come off to give a young prime player who is willing to work for the team a chance, but nah he is selfish and wants to be on the field at all times to get the glory
     
  9. fdasilva

    fdasilva Member+

    May 21, 2014
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    The Argentina team is totally mid, they really should have exited the tournament much much earlier, but Messi (and Infantino) carried them. Messi might retire after this, and they're gonna suffer again like this did post Maradona from 1990-2010
     
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  10. prodigal_mind

    prodigal_mind Member+

    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Portugal
    Jul 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Their team is pretty good it just looks bad because the whole team is built solely around accommodating his walking. For instance, playing basically no wingers to add extra midfielders to defend, and having Alvarez, a top class striker acting like a defensive forward

    In comnebol qualifiers, Argentina beat Brazil 4-1 without Messi
     
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  11. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Get into a world cup final and then talk
     
  12. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    You mean lose a world cup final? Eat shit.
     
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  13. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
  14. SCP21

    SCP21 Member+

    Jul 1, 2011
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Hahahahahahahah

    This is like that time you pretended you always hear people calling de paul the best 7 of all time

    Anyways, ******** argentina. Cunts when they win, cunts when they lose.
     
  15. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Beh. Both are/were elite scorers but Messi's playmaking give him the decided edge.
     
  16. Azores1994

    Azores1994 Member+

    Sporting
    Portugal
    Nov 17, 2024
    lol
     
  17. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Stands to reason, no?

    One is a #10 through and through and the other went from a #7 but then to a hybrid #9. Kudos to reinvent himself but Messi definitely with greater Assist numbers.
     
  18. prodigal_mind

    prodigal_mind Member+

    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Portugal
    Jul 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Can argue that Ronaldo’s adaptability gives him the edge. Messi needs an entire team built solely around him with players that have specific skill sets. It’s the reason why good players (dembele, griezman, arda turan, Coutinho, aguero, tevez, higuain) look so mid/bad playing with him. They get forced to adapt to how he plays.

    WIth prime Ronaldo, his teammates are allowed to showcase their own abilities
     
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  19. prodigal_mind

    prodigal_mind Member+

    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Portugal
    Jul 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    This argument is perfectly illustrated below by Louis van Gaal

    “I believe that there is nothing more important than the team player,”

    “Barca suffer from that. I think Messi should ask himself how it is possible that he’s gone so long without winning a champions league

    “Look at Barcelona. How many Champions Leagues have they won with the one everybody says is the best player in the world? Look at Neymar at PSG. How many Champions Leagues has he won?

    “He’s the best individual player in the world because his stats are amazing. But why hasn’t he won a Champions League for five years?

    “As captain, you have to ask yourself why the team doesn’t win in Europe. I think that Messi is also responsible for what is happening at Barcelona, not just the coach.

    “They have a squad of 30 players and I believe that Messi should adapt himself to the team, and not the other way around.”

    In summary, yes he is the best individual player ever, but how he plays does come with negatives to the team. Hence only being able to muster 3 champions leagues in his entire career as the “goat”.
     
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  20. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    to me it shows what a waste Portugal was in 2024 and 2026 they were the only team that had the players to beat Spain. But they did not win their group and faced Spain too early. They also foolishly did not bring on Ramos after he saved them against Croatia.

    Portugal had a lot of defensive issues but Spain had to respect their midfield and not press them as much as others. Hopefully the 2030 team is even better but such a wasted opportunity to make a final.

    The reality is Messi did so much more with so much less than Ronaldo since 2020.
     
  21. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    and yet basically the entire team will retire as world cup champions and the only champions this century to make it back to the finals. unfortunately there is very little room to dunk on them.
     
  22. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    Messi had 9 dribbles vs England
    Ronaldo had zero dribbles in 9 games between 2022/2026 !
    Ronaldo ruined Portugals chances at a final for me.
     
  23. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
  24. TorontoCalabria

    TorontoCalabria Member+

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    Sep 12, 2018
    Yes Portugal are much better in basically every position. Ramos is also equivalent to Julian Alvarez. The fact that they have failed to score in knock outs in 2020/22/24/26 is really down to one man.. their striker Ronaldo...such a waste. For me they can win euro 2028 if he stays home.
     
  25. Azores1994

    Azores1994 Member+

    Sporting
    Portugal
    Nov 17, 2024
    Hey man, you honestly seem like a cool guy. I enjoy your posts and insight about the Seleção but let’s not pretend like VARgentina weren’t given gift after gift in 2022. Penalties almost every game if I’m not mistaken? Now being investigated by the FBI along with their daddy Infantfifo and Israel. The entire world just witnessed how big of cheating dirty rats they are while I had been saying this since for years.. Argentina just had the easiest path to the World Cup final in history and finally got smacked by a real team (Spain) and it showed and exposed their true form.. Scoreline does not do it justice. 2 clears goals for Spain got disallowed.. Idk why Italians defend Argentina with their life.. Italia is an actual respectable team and federation. Let’s leave Argenfifa where they belong.. In our memories.
     
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