PBP: Other Leagues/Tournaments Catch-All Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Chesco United, Jan 9, 2022.

  1. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You mean league position? The same question would apply to Tottenham.

    Frankfurt qualified after finishing eleventh in BL.
     
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  2. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wigan played Europa League after being relegated.
     
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  3. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Considering that Tottenham are one place behind Manchester United, the answer, without doing and research would be "No."

    Wigan was in the Europa League after winning the FA Cup and then being relegated in 2013, as mentioned.
     
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  4. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Yes, it's easier to make Europe league. You just have to be in a cup final.
     
  5. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    I guess that tells you who I think will win the final ;-)
     
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  6. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Fair enough!
    I tend to agree, but neither should win.
    Both finalists have been zog awful this season.
     
  7. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's not the Champions League.
     
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  8. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The question was "Would Manchester United be the team with the worst record to ever make the Champions League?".

    Only one out of Tottenham and Manchester United only one will qualify for the Champions League. And they'll probably be the team with the worst league record to qualify for the UCL.

    Since when have the Europa League winners qualified for the UCL? I think Frankfurt finished 9th in the Bundesliga the year they won it.

    That's irrelevant to the Champions League.
     
  9. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    #6034 xtomx, May 9, 2025
    Last edited: May 9, 2025
    Yes, I know.
    I was explaining the previous comment about Wigan, by confirming it the was Europa League and NOT Champions League that they qualified for when they were relegated.

    Sorry if my post was too subtle for you by, specifically, pointing it was not Champions League.
     
  10. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well since you didn't specify WHICH Champions League.......... DC United.
     
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  11. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This should shut VAR haters up for a while.

    Leyton Orient v Stockport County in the EFL League One playoffs. No VAR so the goal stood.

     
  12. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Things evened out when Leyton Orient were denied a penalty. It ended 2-2.

    So far none of the home teams in the EFL playoffs have won, which doesn't bode well for Notts County v Wimbledon tonight, especially when I've gone 0 for 6 watching Notts County live this season.

    In fact I haven't seen Notts County win in person since we beat Doncaster 5-2 in 2010, after the then Doncaster chairman had appointed himself coach and played his 16 year-old son in goal.

    Mickey Mouse league.
     
  13. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sac-Indy was Serie B nap-inducing for long stretches.
     
  14. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Your manager takes you from the brink. If relegation to at least a Europa League place and you publicly humiliate him. LOL!

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  15. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tonight's Championship playoff is quite good. Haji Wright and Coventry have taken it to extra time.
     
  16. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sampdoria relegated to Serie C in the worst thing ever to happen to something named after Andrea Doria.

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  17. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Stockport County finished two places away from a playoff place for a Premier League spot in 1997-98. By 2013-14 they were in the 6th tier, where they remained for 6 seasons.

    By the end of the month they could be back in the second tier.

    Their owner writing off $10 million in debt has helped by that shouldn't take the shine off their resurgence.
     
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  18. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    2014-15.

    Since then, the Europa League winners have finished in these spots in their domestic leagues:

    2014-15: Sevilla, 5th
    2015-16: Sevilla, 7th
    2016-17: Manchester United, 6th
    2017-18: Atletico Madrid, 2nd
    2018-19: Chelsea, 3rd
    2019-20: Sevilla, 4th
    2020-21: Villarreal, 7th
    2021-22: Frankfurt, 11th
    2022-23: Sevilla, 12th
    2023-24: Atalanta, 4th
    2024-25: Tottenham/United, guaranteed worse than 12th

    So by league position, to answer the original question, yes, whoever wins will be the worst team to ever qualify for the Champions League.
     
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  19. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Worst team based on league position. Maccabi Tel Aviv and Kosice were probably worse on the pitch.
     
  20. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The contrast between Bologna and Montreal really is something.
     
  21. carnifex2005

    carnifex2005 Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    Now that Saputo's Bologna have won their first major trophy since 1974, maybe he'll start to paying more attention to his first child.
     
  22. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]
     
  23. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Huh. Doing a Google search for Bologna FC results in fireworks going off on the screen.
     
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  24. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Google was really behind yesterday. The Dutch scores were at least 30 minutes behind.
     
  25. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Have you seen Manchester United and Tottenham play this season? :eek::eek::cool::whistling:

    [really, you are, of course, correct]
     
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