Other leagues like Bundesliga where USMNT can develop?

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by waltlantz, Mar 27, 2019.

  1. waltlantz

    waltlantz Member

    Jul 6, 2010
    We all know about how easy and lucrative it is for US players to develop in Germany, Bundesliga in particular.

    Chances of playing time plus easier time with language and cultural assimilation help.

    What other places like Germany do you think our youngsters can head to?

    Does Holland have the same ease of access?

    How does Scandinavia compare?
     
  2. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    The Netherlands has minimum salary requirements for foreign players, IIRC.

    While Bob Bradley repeatedly showed a willingness 10 years ago to pick US players based in Scandinavia, my understanding is that MLS player salaries are now competitive enough to reduce the likelihood of better Americans playing over there.

    Other leagues may have non-EU player registration limits.
     
  3. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MFL. Close to US and easy transition with the language. Only problem is that the players are dual nationals and tend to play for Mexico...
     
  4. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There aren't that many leagues that Americans can easily jump into without an EU/EEA passport. Germany is the only one of the Big 5 that doesn't have foreign player limits.

    The Scandinavian countries don't seem to have limitations on non-EU players, but aren't ranked that high (Denmark 16th, Sweden 22d, Norway 23rd). A number of MLS bench players have gone to Norway, for example, and become immediate starters.

    Here are the UEFA coefficients for ranking leagues:

    https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method5/crank2019.html

    The Netherlands don't have non-EU player limit, but require higher salaries for those players. The average player in the Eredivisie earned 281,000 Euros (as of 2018) and the league requires a non-EU player over 20 be paid at least 422,000 Euros (150% of average). Minimum salary for younger players is 211,000 Euros.

    https://vaaju.com/netherlandseng/av...non-eu-players-receive-at-least-422000-euros/

    Germany is the ideal because it has a solid U19 option, many (though not all) of them have reserve teams and they are willing to start bringing over American players for training stints before signing at age 18. But it is the exception among top leagues in Europe.

    Mexico also has limits on non-Mexican players and Mexican-American players usually have to register by age 19 or they get labeled as "non-Mexicans" for player limit purposes. It's a pretty no-frills environment and it's rare for a American without Mexican ties to sign there.
     
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  5. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    Germany and then Denmark, Scotland, and the Championship. I think a work permit for the Champ is pretty easy to obtain. Quite a few non heralded guys go to League 2 in France, but it doesn't seem like they prosper there.
     
  6. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The English Championship or the Scottish Championship? England falls under the same rules as the EPL, so it's almost impossible. Scotland is much easier, though it isn't that easy to get a waiver for a lower level team as you can't be that great a talent if you are going to the 2nd tier.

    I can't think of any player in either country who came in without an EU passport, except for Cameron & Ream who came qualified for a WP in the EPL first.
     

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