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Discussion in 'World Cup 2026 - Refereeing' started by MassachusettsRef, Jun 2, 2026.

  1. IARef96

    IARef96 Member

    Oct 19, 2010
    Clive, IA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It looks like it, but the designation sheet for that "Game 1,000" actually called their kit "orange." Who knows, maybe they just suck at this.
     
  2. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    according to everything I’ve seen, FIFA decides. The “home” team does not automatically get to wear its home or preferred kit.
     
  3. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    The seminar slide show linked is interesting. There's a lot of stuff that feels like grassroots ref information now.
     
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  4. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Couldn't it also indicate that the field refs are biased against Argentina and constantly need the VAR to get it right? :p

    I'm being sarcastic, but I don't see why that couldn't be the interpretation versus the implication of the VAR being biased. But yeah more than likely just statistical noise either way.
     
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  5. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Indeed. That thought occurred to me as well. Another reason why to always take a jaundiced view at graphics like this - and especially any leading editorializing trying to tell you how to interpret the data.
     
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  6. chaoslord08

    chaoslord08 Member

    Dec 24, 2006
    Fayetteville AR
    Club:
    West Bromwich Albion FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    @MassachusettsRef called this exact scenario. Ben Jacobs of TalkSport reporting that UEFA is looking to run a candidate against Infantino and it seems largely spurred on by the Balogun thing
     
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  7. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    Uphill scenario because of CAF and CONCACAF support. Maybe AFC will splinter?
     
  8. Pittsburgh Ref

    Pittsburgh Ref Member+

    Oct 7, 2014
    da 'Burgh
    Let the Games begin
     
  9. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd


    We knew this was coming, but just another sign that FIFA really doesn't care about the Laws of the Game at all.

    Also, why is the US anthem being played when it hasn't been played at non-US games all tournament? It's not an American sporting event.

    First World Cup match, I believe, where the anthem of a country not playing in the game is being played.
     
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  10. sulfur

    sulfur Member+

    Oct 22, 2007
    Ontario, Canada
    Oh, but it has been.

    Before Canada v South Africa in LA? US anthem.
    Before Canada v Morocco in Houston? US anthem.

    I think that it's been done at all US stadiums before each game.
     
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  11. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, though for the game I went to in Philly it was played a full hour before kickoff.
     
  12. Pierre Head

    Pierre Head Member+

    Dec 24, 2005
    This has been threatened by UEFA several times before.
    It goes nowhere because of the voting structure in FIFA and the power of the sitting president.

    PH
     
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  13. MetroFever

    MetroFever Member+

    Jun 3, 2001
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Not at the games I've been to.
     
  14. TxSooner

    TxSooner Member

    Aug 12, 2011
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    That was my experience in Dallas. Anthem played over an hour before kickoff before team warmups
     
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  15. RefGil

    RefGil Member+

    Dec 10, 2010
    At some point, you'd think UEFA would just threaten to take their ball and go home, a la the Big Tenteen and the SEC with the NCAA. CAF/AFC may have the majority of votes, but I suspect that UEFA brings in way more money than FIFA would be willing to walk away from.
     
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  16. Pelican86

    Pelican86 Member

    United States
    Jun 13, 2019
    The thought certainly crossed my mind, but that's basically the sports equivalent of nuclear war. Things would need to get a lot worse for UEFA for them to go down that road.
     
  17. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    The U.S. anthem is legally required to be played at sporting events in the Meadowlands - where the Final is being played.

    It became a political issue at some point before 2007 when the Republican candidate for Governor was asked why the U.S. anthem wasn't played before some international friendly at Giants Stadium. Sure enough, I was there in 2007 for England/Columbia. As soon as the stadium was opened for fans to enter, they played the Star Spangled Banner fulfilling their legal obligation.

    That way they didn't have to play it as part of the ceremonial introductions before the game.
     
  18. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Fair enough then. It's still absurd.
     
  19. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Absolutely. But few politicians will ever vote on a minor bill (or rider) in such a way that a future opponent can use to make them appear anti-American.

    It's totally cynical. And in New Jersey, at least, it's the law.

    Including it in the game ceremony, however, is on FIFA.
     
  20. Twotone Jones

    Twotone Jones Member

    United States
    Apr 12, 2023
    Yup. It's been played 60 minutes before kickoff at every game in the US.
     
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  21. davidjd

    davidjd Member+

    Jun 30, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've done a number of searches. This does not sound correct. What federal, state, or local law requires this?
     
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  22. Pittsburgh Ref

    Pittsburgh Ref Member+

    Oct 7, 2014
    da 'Burgh
    Hey it's Jersey. They got a guy.
     
  23. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    #523 AndyMead, Jul 16, 2026
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2026
    It was something to do with venues that involved state funding or financing. I think if any anthem was played, the U.S. anthem had to be played as well. It was over 20 years ago. I definitely have found that finding information freely available on the internet back then is harder to locate.

    Edit:

    I found this:
    https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/sport/archives/2005/06/04/2003257966

    I was at that game. I remember the brouhaha after it. And my memory from earlier in this thread is a bit scrambled obviously. I do remember showing to a neutral international shortly after that game - and that was when the U.S. anthem was played as soon as the gates for fans were opened.
     
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  24. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Having a World Cup of 48 teams when 30+ were from UEFA would be a gigantic bummer. Because that's how the Big Ten/SEC dream of football playoffs in the NCAA.
     
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  25. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd


    Sanity prevailed although FIFA's instance on having even the shorts and socks not be of the same color as the teams drives me insane.

    They made France go monoblue against England so why didn't they do that against Spain so Spain could go all white instead of wearing the red shorts?
     

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