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Discussion in 'World Cup 2026 - Refereeing' started by MassachusettsRef, Jun 2, 2026.

  1. Twotone Jones

    Twotone Jones Member

    United States
    Apr 12, 2023
    Yea, if FIFA can spend money, they'll do it for sure. And if they can get someone else to spend a bunch of money for them, they'll absolutely do that at every chance.
     
  2. Twotone Jones

    Twotone Jones Member

    United States
    Apr 12, 2023
    Dallas airport is under construction currently and it's a massive project. Miami, I think, got this out of the way a few years ago. My only issue is it doesn't make any sense at all for refs to go from MIA to Seattle, San Fran or Vancouver when it would've been a much shorter flight to EVERY SINGLE WC city from DFW. and the timezone issue for a ref is easier from DFW than MIA
     
  3. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, PRO VOR facility is the largest in the world, I believe, because it pretty much has to be.
     
  4. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I agree with all that but I still think "Miami is just better than Dallas for a month" wins out. The average referee is coming to the United States for 3-4 weeks and will do 3 games in that span. There's a lot of down time.

    On the travel side, you do also have a weather issue in the summer for DFW that you don't necessarily get in MIA. Neither place is immune to t-storms, but I think historically DFW is a lot more prone to groundstops and delays.

    1994 HQ was in Dallas, I believe, for what that's worth.
     
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  5. Mikael_Referee

    Mikael_Referee Member+

    Jun 16, 2019
    England
    Yep, at the Cooper Centre.
     
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  6. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    I'm enjoying the cameras mounted on the referees. I don't know if its the lense, but they seem to get really close to the play.
     
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  7. the_phoenix612

    Manchester United
    United States
    Sep 13, 2022
    Houston, TX
    Dallas was training camp for the last Gold Cup, because the CONCACAF referee delegation was staying in the same hotel that the referees for USYS South Regionals were in. That created some very cool crossover opportunities!
     
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  8. Pierre Head

    Pierre Head Member+

    Dec 24, 2005
    Yeah, but the DFW area has Buccee's and Whataburger!:D

    PH
     
  9. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Long time no see, PH! :D
     
  10. Pierre Head

    Pierre Head Member+

    Dec 24, 2005
    "The truth is, I never left you." (with apologies to Andrew Lloyd-Webber/Time Rice)

    PH
     
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  11. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    General comment on timekeeping. What's the most stoppage time we've seen?

    +3 should be baked into every half. Have we had more than +7 total? So we're back to just tacking 4 minutes or so on every half and pretending 2022 never really happened? If anything, we might be taking a giant step back because pre-2022, you still were seeing longer stoppage time from VAR timekeeping, albeit not in the double digit range like we did in Qatar.

    Something to keep an eye on. If any half has a VAR review and subs, it shouldn't be less than +8. If a match also has any sort of timewasting, you start to get to a world where second halves should be +10 by default. Yet...
     
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  12. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    My guesses would be:

    1. The hydration breaks are making players less prone to take a break of their own making by staying down after a foul (or non-foul). I’ve talked with players before who’ve noted that they’re sometimes not simulating but just too tired to pop back to their feet straight away.

    2. Law changes aimed at speeding the game along are making a slight impact.

    3. It’s hot and everyone wants to go home.

    (The last is obviously tongue in cheek.)
     
  13. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Funny, because I buy 3 more than 2 and 1.

    The only other thing I could add is that some substitutions are occuring during the hydration break, so that reduces the number of stoppages. And we've only had one OFR and no real long VAR checks yet. So maybe the +8-+10 is coming.
     
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  14. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    If they sub at the hydration break, does it count as one of their sub windows?
     
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  15. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ooh, good question.
     
  16. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    That all seems reasonable.

    Once we get a game with a three-minute VAR check and some serious time-wasting, we’ll see if we’re back in the 8-10 range.
     
  17. Baka_Shinpan

    Baka_Shinpan Member+

    Mar 28, 2011
    Between the posts
    Club:
    Vegalta Sendai
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Same with those darn Canadians. Those darn immigration laws. It’s almost like they are a sovereign nation too.
     
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  18. Pelican86

    Pelican86 Member

    United States
    Jun 13, 2019
    In-N-Out>>>Whataburger

    (That might annoy some of the Texans, but hey, DFW has both.)
     
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  19. Pierre Head

    Pierre Head Member+

    Dec 24, 2005
    They are good too. Not as much choice and variety though!

    PH
     
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  20. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dick's>>>In-N-Out>>>Whataburger
     
  21. davidjd

    davidjd Member+

    Jun 30, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, but there are plenty of local/small chain places which I'm sure beat large chains like these.
     
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  22. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    A local place near me owned by a woman who also works with DC United and the Washington Spirit>>>Five Guys>>>Any other place mentioned above
     
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  23. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    “Other” is indeed a broad topic….
     
  24. Tigerpunk

    Tigerpunk Member+

    Jun 17, 2004
    5 guys has gotten so expensive. At that price point, we've been hitting up Swizzler lately when going to DC United or nats games.

    I have so many unpopular opinions, but one of my most is that in and out is just okay, and their fries are terrible.
     
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  25. weka

    weka Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Freddys
     
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