Oooh! Petro Dollars Buys EPL, UEFA & FIFA.. But Can't Buy Youuu! Hey Jude! Bellingham Thread

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  1. Bear Crotch

    Bear Crotch Member+

    Jan 2, 2008
    Ohio, United States
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    What happened to Mr. Calma Calma when things were rolling for him in his first six months here.

    He went from being the voice of reason and strapping Vini to the chair when that moron would go thermonuclear on every official to doing it himself. This has happened last year. We have a team of sore losers in our club. Anyone that defends this type of behavior needs to remember how we felt watching those Barcelona teams in the last couple of decades.

    We have completely adopted that mentality.
     
  2. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
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    Real Madrid
    People are talking like the team just woke up one morning and said, “hey lads, let’s rebrand as Barcelona villains from a Netflix doc.” What actually happened is much less dramatic and a lot more boring. Pressure went up. Expectations went nuclear. Refs stayed inconsistent. Emotions followed. That’s not a personality transplant. He didn’t turn into some cartoon hothead. He’s reacting inside matches that are tense, messy and usually hanging by a thread. In this case he literally got elbowed & bled on pitch with the ref turning a blind eye.

    Football’s not a pixar sequel where every character grows along a perfect little arc. Im sure he'll pick up the form.
     
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  3. robertocarlos3

    robertocarlos3 Member+

    Jan 9, 2012
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    I think he preffers more deeper role and got the stamina for it. Problem is the unorganized chaos we have in the front is not helping.
     
  4. Bear Crotch

    Bear Crotch Member+

    Jan 2, 2008
    Ohio, United States
    Club:
    Real Madrid
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    Spain
    When the going gets tough then one's true colors show. He can react as he pleases but there are consequences to that.

    The matches hanging by a thread is because just about a non-factor on the pitch. The petulance machine revved up in Jude when his form and performances dipped. When things were going well he was holding out his arms lavishing in the praise. His behavior is just as motivated by his own self-doubt and recent shortcomings.
     
  5. RMrules

    RMrules Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 12, 2019
    The problem with Jude is how absolutely garbage he looks as a creative midfielder, he supposedly has talent,good tech etc but he looks like a ghost......or he keeps the ball for no good reason whatsoever and just lose it or kill the attack
     
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  6. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Calma Calma moment wasn’t a lifetime oath of pacifism. It was a celebration. Not a binding UN treaty. Players evolve. Environments change. Hell, Xabi’s system is still trying to figure out if it he fits in a particular position well. As for the lavishing in praise ,, yeah, shocker, a 22 year old who just delivered in El clasico soaked in the moment. You want him to apologize for enjoying the best spell of his young career?

    even when not involved in actual G/A he’s still putting in shift.

     
  7. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid




    Painful to watch.
     
  8. .halamadrid2.

    .halamadrid2. Member+

    Nov 5, 2010
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    Real Madrid
    The whole team not just Jude
     
  9. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    The funny thing is, people pluck those clips from our games, but Jude is exactly the same player with the national team, the same difficulties to fit him into a meaningful role with Kane being the focal point of attack, to the point where it becomes addition by subtraction. You remove him out of the picture because in order for this to work, the team needs to be tooled around him, or at least that's our only proof of concept.

    That's a tough ask for a team that has choice.
     
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  10. Lyra

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    Apr 29, 2013
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  11. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    honestly we are probably top 5 in worst fanbases in the sport. People attacking other players to defend their favorites, sometimes i wish we'd really suck for a few years in the Conference League just to support this team in peace.
     
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  12. Galatico

    Galatico Member+

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Aug 15, 2019
    I'm pissed at the lot of them. They're embarrassing.
     
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  13. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
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    Real Madrid
    #2088 Lyra, Dec 10, 2025
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2025
    Point of that clip was to show context. The guy above me showed how he was looking unbothered in a sequence of play. I showed the same player bust his lungs out trying to track down attacker in dying minutes of the game.
    Different players can have hot and cold moments in the same match.


    You can’t pretend to be the voice of purity when you’re actively picking targets based on form, flair, or facial expressions. If you're going to critique, fair play, but don't start moralizing when others do it with receipts and context.
     
  14. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    I think people are focusing too much on who is the least bad at something instead of who is actually good.

    Also, we're practically comparing a skill or attribute that the coach was specifically hired to introduce, so considering our failure to effectively win the ball back, because "pressing" without winning the ball back is useless in the long term and only makes you tired running after the ball like a dog, we're basically not seeing the coach convert his concept on the field, or the players lack of execution.

    Whatever it is, the constant comparison of the 67th most effective midfield player in the CL vs the 15th or 18th most effective attacking player, it's all irrelevant.

    People have focused so much on the running and "pressing" that they forget that the goal is to cause turnovers and effectively intercept the ball or win a duel, something the entire team is simply poor at.

    It's like comparing shots attempted and completely ignoring shots on goal, chances converted and so on.

    The process should be to effectively close down space and win the ball back in an advantageous position, but even Celta can both comfortably control space against us. Is it a lack of planning, or execution? Whatever it is, it's not working.


    It's funny because i think Vinicius is neither playing worse than he did when he was considered a Balon d'Or favorite, nor different. You will not change him either, so there needs to be a decision to either get the most out of him, or to go separate ways.
     
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  15. Lyra

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    Apr 29, 2013
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    #2090 Lyra, Dec 10, 2025
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2025
    Agree with it mostly. Running like headless chickens without winning the ball is pointless. But here’s where the logic slips on a banana peel. People are using a team wide structural failure and then selectively zooming in on individual numbers like they’re the villain of the movie.

    You’re also right about one thing. You admit vini’s basically the same player he always was, but somehow the fanbase discovered morality and tactics only after the shine wore off. You either build around that chaos or you sell it. What you don’t do is spend three seasons enjoying the fireworks and then act offended by the smoke.

    This isn’t related to attacking players to defend favourites. It’s like...holding the mirror up. If uncomfortable with what’s in it then maybe they stop fogging it up with double standards.
     
  16. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
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    Colombia
    The ENTIRE team played like pig doo doo in a hot humid day

    This what aboutism is silly in this particular game
     
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  17. Galatico

    Galatico Member+

    Real Madrid
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    Aug 15, 2019
    #2092 Galatico, Dec 10, 2025
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2025
    These are false accusations so I'm gonna assume this statement is bait.
     
  18. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    You’ve spent quite some time swinging at Vini like he owes you money while Mbappe gets the velvet rope treatment and now when someone points out that pattern, suddenly it’s “bait”? That’s convenient. You're no different from "People attacking other players to defend their favourites."
    So yeah, when you said,"I'm pissed at the lot of them. They're embarrassing.", realise that you're a part of "them" as well.

    And for the record my point of posting that tweet was not even demean Mbappe, that guy is the reason we're still in race.
     
  19. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
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    Real Madrid
  20. RMrules

    RMrules Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 12, 2019
    this guy wont be on the bench in the Modric,Kroos,Casemiro,Isco,James and Kovacic team

    Carlo saved his career here with that role that he gave him ,this guy sucks as a midfielder
     
  21. boeder

    boeder Member+

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Feb 27, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  22. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
    ffs... its the league stage of the CL... get your shit together and man up
     
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  23. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    especially in this new format where the games don’t really matter anymore
     
  24. undertow

    undertow Member

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Nov 22, 2020
    He does seem to be very performative in everything he does. Everything for the cameras.

    I'm still not sure what his best position is and Xabi doesn't know either. He holds on to the ball way too long but he's the only one that can pick a pass in that midfield I guess. Also Guler but he won't play ever again.
     
  25. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    Jude doesn’t know, which is Xabis fault?

    Bellingham literally runs away from Fede/Tchoumeni when trying to transition the ball from defense to attack.

    When we do have the ball, he’s so static. Doesn’t move enough. When he does get it, holds it too long.

    But yes, keep blaming Xabi for that.
     

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