Oooh! Petro Dollars Buys EPL, UEFA & FIFA.. But Can't Buy Youuu! Hey Jude! Bellingham Thread

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  1. Zidane05

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    Jul 18, 2005
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    Don’t think the team dynamic matters much when you’re all from different clubs in different countries and get together for a week every couple of months, with the roster constantly changing. Ultimately, the team comes together on shared objective of serving their country.

    The media on the other hand have an agenda. Create headlines, click bait, attract traffic and conversation. There’s no such thing as bad attention. I expect better from the coach who is supposed to bring the team together in a short time span to protect the team, even if he feels someone did wrong. You address it privately.
     
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  2. 4x4s

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    Rehhagel dropped one of the most important players before the tournament because he felt he wasn't a positive influence for the Euro 2004, in Germany there's somebody dropped for personal reasons practically every year.

    It's difficult enough to get guys all under one roof for 3 weeks 24/7, so guys that are kind of special or different, not even necessarily in a bad way (remember Gourcuff was bullied for being "too educated/upper class") gets sorted out quickly.

    You try to get uniformity and common understanding ASAP with the national team, and considering how intense it is to have everybody living together it's even more important.
     
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  3. .halamadrid2.

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    Vini wouldn't stand a chance with the English media if he played for the English NT

    Look at this title:

    "This is why Thomas Tuchel called Jude Bellingham's on-field antics 'repulsive' as the selfish star showed his true colours once again. There must now be serious questions over his World Cup INCLUSION"

    I know Jude is a hot head and I mentioned it when Vini showed his petulance in the Clasico. There aren't many coaches like Carlo out there who can handle these types of players. Tuchel is doing him a disservice with his frankly childish responses
     
  4. 4x4s

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    Where is that title from?
     
  5. libertao

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    Mar 15, 2006
    Why the reputable Daily Mail, of course.
     
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  6. libertao

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    Mar 15, 2006
    LOL the English deserve everything the get when it comes to National team success. Unreal the amount that their media tries to constantly stir things up -- they say their team is the best, then they say they are in turmoil, then they say they are going to lose in the upcoming international tournament like they always do, then right before they say they might win the tournament, then when they lose they say they always knew they would lose because they are shit. Remember them racially abusing and booing the players who had missed penalties in the last tourney?
     
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  7. .halamadrid2.

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    They are only reflecting what the rest of the country feel imo. Just look at the comment section. I think it's due to the unwarranted exposure he's had. Nobody cares what he does footballing wise. They focus on the none football stuff.
     
  8. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    How is that any different than some on here in RMBS?

    Notice those who fixate on specific individuals things like hair style, personal life preferences, etc as why an entire team doesn't get a desired result.

    That media is no different than some here
     
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  9. 4x4s

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    Not really, they are reflecting what their readers think. Same as how the barca and Madrid dailies reflect what their readers think.
     
  10. natenate101

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    Really glad to see Ian Wright's comments on the Jude criticism. Level headed response.
     
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  11. AppleBob86

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    Should be sacked from his job, unless he’s some freelance imbecile
     
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  12. hala_madrid722

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    Thomas Tuchel is a straight douchebag, I could not care less what that guy thinks or has to say.

    Jude is a fantastic player and adds tremendous value to any team in the world.

    Trying to paint a narrative that he’s problematic is very weird.
     
  13. J-Mezzy

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    I don’t get it. Are we mad at the coach for the journo asking the question and him answering nope?
     
  14. 4x4s

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    Your Version of events is just as much of a "narrative" especially considering when he left Dortmund a wave of players practically said how happy they are he's gone and blamed him for going at team mates/being a bad colleague overall.

    We're not talking about him being a moron here, but history shows Jude can be very "demanding" to deal with.
     
  15. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

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    Jan 11, 2018
    It's a stupid ********ing question, full stop.
     
  16. WhiteRM

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    #2016 WhiteRM, Nov 18, 2025
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    The English media can be extremely harsh, and at times even hostile, especially toward players who choose to play outside England. Such players are often seen as ‘unusual’ or ‘different,’ which only intensifies the scrutiny. There’s a strong expectation that English talents should stay in, or eventually return to the Premier League, and when they don’t, the media tends to look for any opportunity to tear them down. This attitude extends to Real Madrid as well: the English press often shows clear bias against the club, largely because Madrid frequently attracts Premier League stars and is perceived as ‘stealing’ top English talents. Combined with the media’s love of drama and the long-standing football rivalry, where Real Madrid and Barcelona dominated Europe for many years. This fuels negative narratives that predict failure, regret, or controversy. As a result, Real Madrid is frequently cast as the ‘villain’: a wealthy, powerful, and ambitious club that appears to stand above the rest.

    On top of all that, Tuchel clearly has some sort of issue with Jude. I wouldn’t be surprised if, at the World Cup, he ends up giving more minutes to Rodgers, Foden, and Palmer at Jude’s expense.
    I’m also pretty sure that even if Trent has a great season, he still won’t be called up to the England squad.

    *just saw this. well, it proved my point.
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  17. 4x4s

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    Trent has been such a wet towel. Zero involvement, a spectator really. Whenever he's been on the field he hasn't been an impact to our game at all. I wouldn't call up the player either. Carvajal has totally outplayed him with both players available which is a crushing result overall compared to what was expected.
     
  18. Saeta Rubia

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  19. robertocarlos3

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    While we didn't paywd for him directly, he's getting into the level of Eden and Kaka level of waste
     
  20. Saeta Rubia

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  21. J-Mezzy

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    The Britts are funny

    They are self destructing now

    then they’ll beat Haiti or curaçao 6-0 in the first round of the wc and crown themselves champions and it’s coming home while idolizing Jude and then lose in the semis or something and blame Jude for the “failure” even though they’d be making it as far as they should
     
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  22. 4x4s

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    This is INSANE given how famous and popular Lewis Hamilton is. People craft an idea and build these weird stories around them.
     
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  23. J-Mezzy

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    I think we, and hopefully the players, need to realize that the loud few don’t represent everyone and there will always be toxic people.

    I am not in England, but I doubt people hate Jude. In Colombia James had A LOT of retractors because of his attitude and laziness, but he is still an immensely popular player.

    now we have Luis Diaz who is the epitome of good attitude, hard work, and humility and yet some people complain about him too.

    moral of the story, you will never be able to please everyone and a few morons even if loud don’t represent everyone. I am sure Jude is fine in England
     
  24. Saeta Rubia

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    Ian Wright went through what he's describing about English media too. Luis Hamilton gets positive press when they portray him as humble and not so much when they perceive him not to be. Kante example given by Ian is on point.

    I posted about English media's targeted attack of Raheem Sterling here around 2016 about him buying house, car etc with extremely negative headlines.

    In 2016, both newspapers attacked him for buying a home for his mother, who raised him as a single parent. “Obscene Raheem” was the headline in The Sun. “England flop Raheem shows off blinging house,” was the Daily Mail’s. The same day, The Sun used a picture of Sterling to accompany a report with which he had no connection whatsoever, on a semi-professional footballer who they claimed was a drug dealer.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/...ia-and-elites-fuel-racism-in-british-football
     
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  25. Saeta Rubia

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    Ian is talking about the narrative set by mainstream media rather than majority football fans, I think.
     
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