Oooh! Petro Dollars Buys EPL, UEFA & FIFA.. But Can't Buy Youuu! Hey Jude! Bellingham Thread

That's a bit of an oversimplification bro, as he also helped out in defence a fair bit, with some decent challenges / blocks. He looked way more active than he has done in previous games.
Regarding the goal, I need to look at the video, but I was wondering where Cama and Tchou were in that play.

 

Hope he gets a break with England

 

No, it just contributes to the fact that he had a very good cameo yesterday and not a lackluster performance. As opposed to what he had been suffering from the previous couple of matches since returning from a long-injury. I don't see the need to praise him for anything.

 

He hasn't been selected bro. So, the I'm guessing the aim is for him to get back to full match fitness by Juve / El Classico.

 

I've had a look back at the video and Camavinga could have done much better to close down Mikautadze. Tchouameni was also on the right wing, even though we were over-loaded on that side. I'm judging Bellingham's performance on what he did yesterday, overall.

 

Tuchel didn't call him up.

 

I may well be missing something here but are we sure it was Jude’s man that scored the goal against us? Bellingham was supposed to play AM, replacing Guler. For covering a shot at the top of the box, isn’t the responsibility more on Camavinga or Tchouameni?

 

Yeah. In real time it looked like Camavinga was drawn to the right side and didn’t check back on the danger on the edge of the box.

Outside of that I think he had a good appearance, some very positive moments.

Jude looked a lot sharper as well especially compared to the Atleti game.

 

I’d love to hear Xabi’s honest assessment of that Atleti game selection. The fact that Jude didn’t see any minutes against Kariat speaks volumes imo.

We’re at that stage where we need him back fully fit very soon.

After Getafe (tricky away game by its own merit), we have Juventus, Barcelona, Valencia, Liverpool consecutively.

 

I just watched it again as well. I would say that Camavinga did get pulled too far into the box, but it's not totally unreasonable as he's in position to block a cross from the edge of the box from the player who gets the assist. He was closed down late as well. Then Cama - who had his hands folded to avoid handballs - reacts slightly slowly to getting back onto his man and he gets a good shot away.

I don't think Jude would have have closed down the goalscorer - the in came long lens makes him seem closer than he was - but his defense still was frustrating on the play. The is a second Villareal player unmarked in the space above the box and Jude is just walking back 6 yards behind him as he moves into a dangerous position. It's very much a forward's position rather than a midfielder's that he's occupying during this play.

And while we're apportioning blame, I actually think that this goal doesn't happen if Mastantuano starts sprinting back 1 second earlier. He's walking behind the play too. He isn't quick enough to notice the overload on the right (where Fede and Tchou each have a man, but a third arrives). It's that guy getting the ball that makes Camavinga pull in to cut off the direct path/pass toward goal. Masta then sprints back but the ball is already away to the center with Camavinga pulled out of position.

Overall, it was a great shot or we probably wouldn't be talking about it, but there were a couple of failings overall.

Edit: Here's a link. You can see Jude and Masta walking back on the ball side/middle, Vini walking/jogging on the weakside, and Mbappe doesn't even get into the picture. At least one and really probably two players not moving fast enough.

https://streamff.com/v/82adca01

 

I thought during the game that it was Bellingham's fault for not tracking back. Mastantuono too but he ran his ass off all game and he was tired at that point. With Mbappe and Vinicius there is still way too many passengers defensively.

 

Jude put more effort in throwing his toys out of the pram and kicking the goal posts for missing his two attempts at goal than being arsed as a sub, to track back on the goal.

 

This is a great lens option to watch a full game in.

 

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IMO the goal is Camavinga’s man, but Militao’s fault.

it’s clever movement by the striker, he is inside the box but moves out to make space and score. Cama should be marking him but the movement is clever and blindside of Cama. Militao can see the whole pitch as the play develops, as soon as the ball moves from wing to inside, he needs to tell Cama to watch his blindside.

If he doesn’t give the call, then it’s Cama’s man who scores but Militao’s fault.

 

I also thought that it was good movement from the striker. I just never got the sense that Cama didn't know where the man was (maybe why he's a bit slow to react?), but rather that Cama felt he had to pull in as when Gueye (who provides the assist) gets the ball. Gueye is right outside the corner of the box with basically a direct path toward goal as Masta isn't back. Cama pulls in and the ball goes across and Mikautadaze hits a nice ball.

Edit: Can't get the image to embed so here's the link: https://imgur.com/a/2b5Hb5f



I'm not really sure what Cama could do/Militao could communicate. I guess Camavinga could have basically faked moving into the position he took up and then rushed back to Mikautadaze, counted on that to stall the drive/cross and assumed that Masta/Tchou would close him down due to the delay. But that's a lot easier to say after watching it from above 19 times. Really I think the break down is when they have an overload on that side and Masta (or Jude) doesn't get back quickly enough to take the man on the edge of the box and so Cama pulls in to cut off the direct line toward goal.
Also, thank you. Despite some of the slinging of poo that goes on on this forum, I very much enjoy it for this type of discussion.

 

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