Oooh! Petro Dollars Buys EPL, UEFA & FIFA.. But Can't Buy Youuu! Hey Jude! Bellingham Thread

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  1. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    "they're going to cripple him, let me assist them"
     
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  2. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    He reminds me of that English bloke who came here to cry about our usage of Jude all the while the NT uses him for every second he can stand on two legs.

    The level of hypocrisy? Just Smh
     
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  3. Raul-7

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    Aug 17, 2006
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  4. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Romario: “One English player to play for my team? Bellingham. He’s very technical, he has a lot of strength and always plays forward with an objective to score a goal.” @ESPNUK

     
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  5. Shay Z

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    Jan 3, 2007
    #1780 Shay Z, Jun 3, 2025
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    Not to be a body language doctor but i noticed a change in Jude during the season. At the start he was like his usual self. Running all over the pitch, covering for others, making the right decisions on the pitch almost every time and still making those killer runs into the box. The team was doing badly, Mbappe - Vini - Rodrygo trident wasn't performing as expected. Then i started seeing him get more and more upset with his teammates on the pitch. Vini didn't find him with a pass in the box, he's gonna say something, Fran makes the wrong decision he's gonna let him hear it right then and there, those are just two examples off the top of my head, there were countless instances. I said to myself, this is Jude's personality, he takes responsibility for everything and he's also still young and maybe refining his leadership style and learning like we all did when we were his age.

    Then around February i noticed something troubling, it's like he gave up trying, you didn't see much of him complaining, you didn't see the gestures, but you also didn't see the 150% effort and you also didn't see full engagement. Now i know that any normal person would feel dejected when things are not going right and you've tried your best and it's still not leading to team results.

    I would not at all be surprised if Carlo also saw these changes and had a talk with him. That's what a good manager does. I did not see any rejuvenated Jude at any point in the second half of the season so don't know how that talk affected him, sometimes people totally shut down if they perceive it as a negative.

    We should remind ourselves that these players aren't robots. They all have emotions, some more than others, some can't help but wear them on their face, some aren't sure yet how to handle some of the stronger ones like failure/rejection. So, i understand, we want Jude to be super human and an exemplary individual because we want to give the keys to the team to him. But he's not perfect. Normal people like us aren't under the microscope like these guys so i can't really put myself in their shoes but i do understand patience with people and that's what we should be. If things go right this is the kind of individual u want as your club captain and representing us fans the right way because you can see he cares as much as we do even if he likes to be "the man".
     
  6. Seoul Villan

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    Feb 16, 2011
    I’m not worried. There was a ton of issues with every player on the squad.

    It just might be his shoulder was bothering him to the point where he could not play with the intensity needed.

    Jude has the DNA to be a legend. Let’s not overreact here.
     
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  7. Aensensen

    Aensensen Member+

    Croatia
    Jun 10, 2011
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    Real Madrid
    https://www.thetimes.com/sport/foot...hel-jude-bellingham-england-senegal-0wgcjthrc


    Tuchel course correcting Bellingham via press conference. Interesting way of going about it. Let's see if it gets him the desired result.
     
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  8. .halamadrid2.

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    Nov 5, 2010
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    He won't change. The LaLiga refs have put a mark on him now. Any weird gaze and they'll card him. Has to be careful. We need his passion but like Tuchel mentioned its best if he directs it at the opposition and not his teammates.

    There are rumours that he isnt very popular in the NT squad due to his poor attitude towards his teammates
     
  9. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
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    Well unlike with England, at Madrid he's going to have a couple of younger and very talented players breathing down his neck and trying to take his spot in the lineup.

    For me while Jude is the more complete player, the total package if you will, as a pure #10 or AM I think Guler and Mastantuono are the better fit. Alot will depend on what the manager prefers.
     
  10. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    English football is known to canabalize each other. I’m not surprised at all.

    Jude is an easy target as he plays outside of England and for the “Great Spanish Satan”.
     
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  11. Anon.

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    Sep 4, 2007
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    To be honest, as an Englishmen, that doesn't necessarily bleed for our national team, Jude is not wrong to question some of the commitment and performances from his fellow team mates. I.e. I don't blame him for expecting and wanting more.
     
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  12. .halamadrid2.

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    Nov 5, 2010
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    Perhaps but Jude's attitude can rub people the wrong way. Especially those that only tune in to watch the NT play.

    I agree though that the English media is toxic.

    There is alot of heat around him at the moment. Everytime the NT fails to win a trophy they'll turn to the easy pray. Right now that is Jude.
     
  13. .halamadrid2.

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    Nov 5, 2010
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    Perhaps, but there is a time and a place. Especially if hes serious of being the captain/leader. When I see a great captain I look at Ramos and he would never give attitude towards teammates in public. In fact he'll protect them from criticism. Case in point when Ronaldo moaned about having to play with Jese, Lucas and Morata, Ramos immediately came out to protect them.
     
  14. RMrules

    RMrules Member+

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    Aug 12, 2019
    Jude thinks he is beter than he is ,he has to wake up,he has been average for a year and more now ,shoudler injury excuses are geting old

    Pedri is making him look like a fool every time they meet
     
  15. Saeta Rubia

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    May 28, 2010
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  16. Anon.

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    Sep 4, 2007
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    My main issue is that there is a clear media agenda, from UK based sources, on him. Even The Athletic, who are supposed to be accurate and balanced, purposely misconstrued Tuchel's words to point the finger at Jude and make it out as if even the England manager is questioning his attitude. That's blatant falsification man

    And Jude has defended teammates before, he did it with his fellow Real Madrid players this season, that weren't in-form and being targeted by the Spanish press. One specific interview comes to my mind, but I can't remember who he was defending.
     
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  17. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Yep he seems to just switch off and for guys that play with passion like him that turns into a bad looking behavior.

    For me what broke his spirit was Mbappe's lead of not pressing.. which Vinicius followed instead of being an example.

    When he saw Mbappe chilling and Vini more interested in arguing and 'crowd clowning' he just was like "fuuck this".

    The reality is for the role Ancelotti created for him we were dependent on him doing a ton of running and when you see others not bought in? The "team" will suffer when people start to mentally check out.

    Which is why we needed the new leadership in Xabi. Someone has to get Vinicius and Mbappe to buy back in and hustle and work for 'team' and not just me or whatever personal vendetta.

    I saw Mbappe run like a mad man for France in the nations league so I know he can. We all know Vinicius can as well. However Carlo sit couldn't get them to do it for him... let's pray Xabi can.
     
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  18. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
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    Thomas Tuchel: “I think Jude Bellingham has a certain something, he brings an edge, which we welcome and which is needed if we want to achieve big things.”
     
  19. .halamadrid2.

    .halamadrid2. Member+

    Nov 5, 2010
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    Real Madrid
    Tuchel:

     
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  20. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    I truly feel like he needs an agent or at least a public relations agency. What he's doing with his family is admirable but he's too good to be lost in controversy and he has so much potential as a leader.

    You see what Mendes has been doing for Yamal. A big agent will move the needle about the way the public discusses a player.
     
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  21. Aensensen

    Aensensen Member+

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    Jun 10, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    If Ten Haag could bench Cristiano Ronaldo, keep him on the bench and then tell him to warm up with 3 minutes to go, Xabi Alonso can most definitely bench any player on our team.

    The not running and pressing thing is absolutely unacceptable. The absolute disrespect towards the paying fans, their teammates and their manager should never be tolerated.

    I am confident that Xabi Alonso will try to sort them out though. I just hope he's ready for the media PR games that will most definitely come along as a reaction.
     
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  22. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    Typical English media piling on the NT's best player (in part due to him playing for a large foreign club). I think Jude's edge is what makes him the player he is. He won't change and that's good. Some teammates will be intimidated and/or annoyed, and that's good too – such players shouldn't be playing at a club like Real Madrid anyway. At Real Madrid, we love highly talented players like Jude that also work hard, run, fight, and – above all – can play.

    Agreed about the PR stuff, he needs to sort it out and engage professionals.
     
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  23. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
    London
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    Real Madrid
    English football fans have a lot of toxicity towards Real Madrid, Bellingham will know to not expect the love he deserves from the fan base over here.

    A primary example are Liverpool fans, their hate towards us is at an all time high recently. The Trent move has driven them nuts.
     
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  24. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    Good point. Trent will be another whipping boy for them to make an example of now.
     
  25. Galatico

    Galatico Member+

    Real Madrid
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    Aug 15, 2019
    Why do people in England hate this club so much?
     

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